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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy does msnbc continue to periodically have Michael Moore on? He will be on Alex Witt
today, but I dont think he has that much of a following anymore
lisa58
(5,755 posts)He did a podcast on the arrest of the Michigan militia or whatever they call themselves
TexasTowelie
(112,399 posts)not to watch MSNBC this morning. I need to shampoo my hair which takes much longer since I haven't had a hair cut in nine months. I also need to go shopping.
doc03
(35,363 posts)haven't been watching much MSNBC so I don't know what he is saying this year.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)For the record he predicted Obama would lose in 08 and 12.
doc03
(35,363 posts)betsuni
(25,610 posts)Because he had more money to spend on his campaign than Obama did.
He was right there were many angry white men in 2016, but wrong about why. He thought it was about economy insecurity. No. It wasn't new, either, as he knows because he wrote "Stupid White Men" in 2001.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)Just a thought.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)whathehell
(29,090 posts)Just a thought.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Ralph Nader is still relevant.
And spending 40 years attacking everyone including the Democratic Party is not progressive advocacy.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)since "Unsafe at any Speed" was published in 1966, so it's a bad analogy.
Your claim that Michael Moore has " been attacking everything including the Democratic Party for 40 years" is blatantly false.
Do get back to me when you've done some actual research.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Moore has never been a friend of the Democratic Party.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Michael Moore was a key voice at the time and his film shined a light on things that weren't heavily reported at the time. I don't know if anyone remembers what it was like. Donahue was fired by MSNBC for being anti-iraq war despite having good ratings and replacing him with god awful Republicans. Anyways, Michael Moore begged Nader not to run at the time. There was a lot more unity back then and the Bush resistance lead to 8 years of Obama.
However, I lost respect for Moore when he put his name on that horrible climate film.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)and helped give us Bush.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)The only time I saw people hating Moore over that was 2016. I honestly didn't see that when I was an anti-Bush Democrat. The sad thing is a lot of the Bush administration officials and columnists elevated by our party for the very low bar of criticizing Trump. I remember Fox News lead a boycott of Bull Durham because Susan Surandon opposed the Iraq war. Now she is boycotted by our party.
While I'm thankful of all the progress accomplished under Obama (he was in between the 2 worst Presidents in modern history) I do miss the Bush resistance.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Dont pretend that they didnt.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)Michael Moore has always been a friend of Democracy.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Or Democratic candidates including Joe Biden.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)and criticize your own party.
.Saying otherwise is like saying good Americans should not criticize their own government or country.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Moore is an independent. And attacking a party with lies is fair criticism.
betsuni
(25,610 posts)Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump is." And that the Democratic primaries were rigged because of bribery. It's nutty conspiracy theory. How in the hell is that a "friend"?.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)but the DNC did, in fact, rig the primaries against Bernie Sanders in favor of Hillary -- It's why Debbie Wasserman Schultz had to resign.
https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/
betsuni
(25,610 posts)Donna Brasile took her false accusation back first saying, "The process was not rigged. I believe it was a fair fight because ultimately the voters decided."
Then Warren: "I agree with what Donna Brazile has said over the last few days, ... the overall 2016 primary process was fair and Hillary made history."
It's a debunked conspiracy theory:
http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
whathehell
(29,090 posts)Like Bernie Sanders, he's an Independent.who generally does a great job defending liberal, progressive values.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)He is just a rich elitist blow hard.
still_one
(92,381 posts)represents independents either
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)He only represents himself.
doc03
(35,363 posts)is back at making his propaganda videos.
LuvNewcastle
(16,855 posts)Sunday morning to be on MSNBC. It's one thing to spend your day off on This Week or one of the other big shows, but being a guest on a weekend show on MSNBC isn't such a big privilege. Someone like Moore is perfect for them.
Deuxcents
(16,315 posts)I like him n hes done some good documentaries/movies. Maybe he claims to be Independent so he can get people on both sides views.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)But it is important to have a variety of viewpoints. Again him putting his name on that climate film is why I stopped following him but there are members of the party that share his views.
anamnua
(1,119 posts)Not much to complain about here.
I just don't get the anti-Michael Moore stuff in DU.
'A prophet is never accepted in his own country.'
whathehell
(29,090 posts)I'd guess they're people unfamiliar with the bulk of his work and who are also anti-Bernie.
I don't agree with everything he says, but I do like him and always have.
still_one
(92,381 posts)care for him, without getting into details, a lot of that had to do with his divisive rhetoric