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Why does msnbc continue to periodically have Michael Moore on? He will be on Alex Witt (Original Post) still_one Oct 2020 OP
Probably because of Michigan... lisa58 Oct 2020 #1
Thanks for alerting me TexasTowelie Oct 2020 #2
Well he was right about the 2016 election. I doc03 Oct 2020 #3
A broken clock is right twice a day Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #5
Didn't know that lol. nt doc03 Oct 2020 #8
And that Romney would win in 2012. betsuni Oct 2020 #23
Because they find him relevant, even if you don't? whathehell Oct 2020 #4
What makes him relevant? Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #12
Forty plus years of progressive advocacy, maybe? whathehell Oct 2020 #14
By that logic Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #16
Um, no, You see, Ralph Nader hasn't been relevant FOR 40 years whathehell Oct 2020 #17
Don't deny reality Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #18
Things were different when Bush was President JonLP24 Oct 2020 #19
I lost respect when he supported Nader Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #20
No one cared about that back then JonLP24 Oct 2020 #24
Lots of Democrats cared about it in 2000 Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #25
Get acquainted with reality. whathehell Oct 2020 #21
But not of the Democratic Party Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #22
You don't seem to understand that one can be a democrat whathehell Oct 2020 #28
But he's not a democrat Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #32
Then why does he say things like, "I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic betsuni Oct 2020 #26
I don't agree with his first statement, whathehell Oct 2020 #31
No, she was wrong and said it wasn't rigged a week later. betsuni Oct 2020 #37
He was for most of his life, whathehell Oct 2020 #33
Don't understand it either Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #6
He doesn't identify himself as a Democrat. He says he is an independent. I don't think he still_one Oct 2020 #7
Exactly Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #11
He is the Democrat Denesh Desusa. I see he doc03 Oct 2020 #9
Not many people want to waste a nice, lazy LuvNewcastle Oct 2020 #10
I'll watch him Deuxcents Oct 2020 #13
I stopped liking Moore after he put his name on that horrible climate documentary JonLP24 Oct 2020 #15
Saw his latest YouTube clip anamnua Oct 2020 #27
I don't get the Moore haters either.. whathehell Oct 2020 #34
I did watch it, and agree there wasn't anything to argue with. As for you r comment why some don't still_one Oct 2020 #35
I don't know how people watch the News all day. sarcasmo Oct 2020 #29
Well to be fair, Alex Witt doesn't have a following either ! Definitely Minor League. OnDoutside Oct 2020 #30
I did catch it, and I am glad to say it was ok still_one Oct 2020 #36

lisa58

(5,755 posts)
1. Probably because of Michigan...
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:29 AM
Oct 2020

He did a podcast on the arrest of the Michigan militia or whatever they call themselves

TexasTowelie

(112,399 posts)
2. Thanks for alerting me
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:31 AM
Oct 2020

not to watch MSNBC this morning. I need to shampoo my hair which takes much longer since I haven't had a hair cut in nine months. I also need to go shopping.

doc03

(35,363 posts)
3. Well he was right about the 2016 election. I
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:35 AM
Oct 2020

haven't been watching much MSNBC so I don't know what he is saying this year.

betsuni

(25,610 posts)
23. And that Romney would win in 2012.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 02:02 AM
Oct 2020

Because he had more money to spend on his campaign than Obama did.

He was right there were many angry white men in 2016, but wrong about why. He thought it was about economy insecurity. No. It wasn't new, either, as he knows because he wrote "Stupid White Men" in 2001.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
16. By that logic
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 06:28 AM
Oct 2020

Ralph Nader is still relevant.

And spending 40 years attacking everyone including the Democratic Party is not progressive advocacy.

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
17. Um, no, You see, Ralph Nader hasn't been relevant FOR 40 years
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 12:00 PM
Oct 2020

since "Unsafe at any Speed" was published in 1966, so it's a bad analogy.

Your claim that Michael Moore has " been attacking everything including the Democratic Party for 40 years" is blatantly false.

Do get back to me when you've done some actual research.


JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
19. Things were different when Bush was President
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 12:59 PM
Oct 2020

Michael Moore was a key voice at the time and his film shined a light on things that weren't heavily reported at the time. I don't know if anyone remembers what it was like. Donahue was fired by MSNBC for being anti-iraq war despite having good ratings and replacing him with god awful Republicans. Anyways, Michael Moore begged Nader not to run at the time. There was a lot more unity back then and the Bush resistance lead to 8 years of Obama.

However, I lost respect for Moore when he put his name on that horrible climate film.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
24. No one cared about that back then
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 02:10 AM
Oct 2020

The only time I saw people hating Moore over that was 2016. I honestly didn't see that when I was an anti-Bush Democrat. The sad thing is a lot of the Bush administration officials and columnists elevated by our party for the very low bar of criticizing Trump. I remember Fox News lead a boycott of Bull Durham because Susan Surandon opposed the Iraq war. Now she is boycotted by our party.

While I'm thankful of all the progress accomplished under Obama (he was in between the 2 worst Presidents in modern history) I do miss the Bush resistance.

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
28. You don't seem to understand that one can be a democrat
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 06:38 PM
Oct 2020

and criticize your own party.
.Saying otherwise is like saying good Americans should not criticize their own government or country.

betsuni

(25,610 posts)
26. Then why does he say things like, "I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 06:59 AM
Oct 2020

Party is a greater roadblock to social progress than Trump is." And that the Democratic primaries were rigged because of bribery. It's nutty conspiracy theory. How in the hell is that a "friend"?.

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
31. I don't agree with his first statement,
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 06:48 PM
Oct 2020

but the DNC did, in fact, rig the primaries against Bernie Sanders in favor of Hillary -- It's why Debbie Wasserman Schultz had to resign.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/


betsuni

(25,610 posts)
37. No, she was wrong and said it wasn't rigged a week later.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:15 PM
Oct 2020

Donna Brasile took her false accusation back first saying, "The process was not rigged. I believe it was a fair fight because ultimately the voters decided."

Then Warren: "I agree with what Donna Brazile has said over the last few days, ... the overall 2016 primary process was fair and Hillary made history."

It's a debunked conspiracy theory:

http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
33. He was for most of his life,
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 06:58 PM
Oct 2020

Like Bernie Sanders, he's an Independent.who generally does a great job defending liberal, progressive values.

still_one

(92,381 posts)
7. He doesn't identify himself as a Democrat. He says he is an independent. I don't think he
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 08:17 AM
Oct 2020

represents independents either

LuvNewcastle

(16,855 posts)
10. Not many people want to waste a nice, lazy
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 08:34 AM
Oct 2020

Sunday morning to be on MSNBC. It's one thing to spend your day off on This Week or one of the other big shows, but being a guest on a weekend show on MSNBC isn't such a big privilege. Someone like Moore is perfect for them.

Deuxcents

(16,315 posts)
13. I'll watch him
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 09:25 AM
Oct 2020

I like him n he’s done some good documentaries/movies. Maybe he claims to be Independent so he can get people on both sides views.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
15. I stopped liking Moore after he put his name on that horrible climate documentary
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 03:21 AM
Oct 2020

But it is important to have a variety of viewpoints. Again him putting his name on that climate film is why I stopped following him but there are members of the party that share his views.

anamnua

(1,119 posts)
27. Saw his latest YouTube clip
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 06:24 PM
Oct 2020


Not much to complain about here.
I just don't get the anti-Michael Moore stuff in DU.

'A prophet is never accepted in his own country.'

whathehell

(29,090 posts)
34. I don't get the Moore haters either..
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 07:13 PM
Oct 2020

I'd guess they're people unfamiliar with the bulk of his work and who are also anti-Bernie.

I don't agree with everything he says, but I do like him and always have.

still_one

(92,381 posts)
35. I did watch it, and agree there wasn't anything to argue with. As for you r comment why some don't
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 07:13 PM
Oct 2020

care for him, without getting into details, a lot of that had to do with his divisive rhetoric


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