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Nevilledog

(51,174 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 12:46 AM Oct 2020

Trump is suppressing the GOP vote in a manner no other person or institution could accomplish.



Tweet text: Grant Stern
@grantstern
I have followed Florida's early voting numbers for years and this is a total reversal in early vote by mail for Republicans.

Trump is suppressing the GOP vote in a manner no other person or institution could accomplish.

Trump’s vote-by-mail conspiracy theories decimated the Republican Party’s early vote lead in...
Florida Republicans once had a robust vote-by-mail program that helped give them the edge over Democrats in the state. Unfortunately, however, President Donald Trump’s conspiracies have killed any...
rawstory.com


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trumps-vote-by-mail-conspiracy-theories-decimated-the-republican-partys-early-vote-lead-in-florida-report/

Florida Republicans once had a robust vote-by-mail program that helped give them the edge over Democrats in the state. Unfortunately, however, President Donald Trump’s conspiracies have killed any lead the GOP held.

The New York Times cited University of Florida political science professor Michael McDonald, who said that this is the first election in which Democrats are casting more early votes than Republicans.

“In Florida, he said, 11.5 percent of Democrats who requested absentee ballots have returned them, compared with 8.7 percent of Republicans,” the Times reported. “The same pattern emerges in another battleground state, North Carolina, where the return rate for Democratic ballots is 32.9 percent, and the return rate for Republicans is 27.4 percent.”

In 2016, Trump’s early-vote turnout swamped Hillary Clinton, particularly in states like Florida. It’s a problem that Republicans are beginning to understand is a problem. The report explained that the GOP expected suppressed turnout because of Trump’s conspiracies; they didn’t expect it to be this bad.

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Trump is suppressing the GOP vote in a manner no other person or institution could accomplish. (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2020 OP
Oh, I thought they meant Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #1
Plan B Nevilledog Oct 2020 #2
Actually, plan D. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #5
Fabulous! nt babylonsister Oct 2020 #3
Yep. He's got them afraid to vote by mail or won't out of loyalty, yet afraid to vote in person. TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #4
It's all part of the shitshow, folks Blue Owl Oct 2020 #6
Vote by mail has always been a key part of GOP GOTV Gothmog Oct 2020 #7
Updating the article re Florida Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #8
I seriously have my doubts about FL... they just can't get their act together Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #10
Yeah I will be happy if Florida goes blue it will mean an early night and rout for Dumpy. Statistical Oct 2020 #13
And ensuring that there's no over confidence amongst Dem voters OnDoutside Oct 2020 #9
I wonder how many GOP would stand in line for 8 hours like Democrats have done? Maraya1969 Oct 2020 #11
Vote by mail is a key part of GOP GOTV efforts Gothmog Oct 2020 #12
He's frantically trying to reverse course Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #14

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
5. Actually, plan D.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:02 AM
Oct 2020

D is for Democrats.

Hissolini was too dumb to realize he was suppressing the votes of his supporters with his mail vote bashing. But hoped he was killing D voters.

Gothmog

(145,486 posts)
7. Vote by mail has always been a key part of GOP GOTV
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:13 AM
Oct 2020

Prior to 2012, the Democratic Party in Texas did not put any emphasison vote by mail. Historically the GOP base tended to be older and the Texas GOP relied on vote by mail for GOTV. In 2011 the Texas GOP adopted a voter id law that exempted vote by mail so as to not affect the GOP base. The Texas state party decided to puruse vote by mail in part as a way to lessen the effect of the voter id law. Initally, the DOJ and the courts blocked the GOP voter id law under the Voting Rights Act until that asshole CJ Roberts gutted the voting Right Act. The party put an emphasis on vote by mail and I remember that a PAC that i was the treasurer of paid about a dollar per application to try to get vote by mail out. Since then the party has figured out how to lower the cost and have incrased vote by mail in Texas. In 2010, in my county, the GOP had about 10,000 vote by maill ballots compared to about 300 for the Democrats. In 2018, the Democrats and the GOP were about equal in vote by mail ballots which is how we carried all county wide races in 2018 where we had a candidate.

The GOP is the party of voter suppression. .Here is a chart that shows the effect of the Texas voter id law on Democratic turnout in 2014 (the one year that the ungutted act was in effect)

Greg Abbott got more votes in 2014 compared to Rick Perry while Wendy Davis got far fewer votes even though she spent more.

In 2016 the 5th Circuit affirmed this ruling and the Texas voter id law was largely gutted so that any registered voter can vote if they lack one of the approved ids and sign a Reasonable Impediment Declaration and provide one of the alternative ids which includes utility bills or bank statements.

The GOP exempted vote by mail from the voter id law because the Texas GOP relied on such law. I hope that trump's actions really backfire and help turn Texas blue

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
8. Updating the article re Florida
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 01:23 AM
Oct 2020

Florida is now 33.6% returned by Democrats and 27.9% by Republicans. Only annoyance is Miami-Dade which sent out ballots the last day allowed by Florida law and is lagging every other major county, at only 14.8% returned. Biden needs a big margin out of Miami-Dade:

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/FL.html

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
13. Yeah I will be happy if Florida goes blue it will mean an early night and rout for Dumpy.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:14 AM
Oct 2020

but I am expecting the worst.

Johnny2X2X

(19,104 posts)
14. He's frantically trying to reverse course
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:39 AM
Oct 2020

I eat his ad dollars on line by letting all of his ads I come across play completely. It costs his campaign money when someone watches their ads. So I am on a list to be targeted and I get a lot of Trump and GOP ads. The last several days the ad I see most is Trump telling his voters to vote by mail, request their ballots, and vote early.

It was a grave mistake for him to rip on absentee ballots, his voters aren't voting right now and he's falling several hundred thousand more votes a day behind Biden because of it. This will compound itself on election day when Democratic areas are less busy than they would be at the polls because half the people have already cast their ballots. Dem areas will still have lines, but they'll be much smaller.

Rural areas rarely have lines anyway, but they will have them in some places that they didn't have to have. And that's what will hurt him further, people work, people have lives, they don't plan for 2 hours to vote, people plan for a half hour or 45 minutes to vote. Many people will drive to their polling station and see a line and then drive home thinking they can come back later, those people often don't come back at all.

Every ballot cast early by Dems helps Dems fight the crowds on election day.

The fact that Trump is now frantically urging his supporters to vote early is too little too late, he's screwed his campaign over.

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