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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:38 PM Oct 2020

I Don't Understand Why Biden Just Doesn't Say "I Won't Expand The Supreme Court If You Don't..."

"I won't expand ('pack') the Supreme Court if you don't cynically ram through another Justice during an election. We'll both agree to let the VOTERS decide who gets to pick the next Associate Justice. But if you're hellbent on ramming through a SCOTUS life appointment during an election, we'll have no choice but to REPAIR the damage you've done by expanding the court."


That puts the spotlight back on what the Republicans are doing. But at least he can't be accused of 'ducking' the question. We know the Republicans will stack the Supreme Court anyway...even if it means wheeling Graham, Grassley, and Lee in on hospital beds equipped with ventilators. But if they do it, and Biden wins big in November, it will provide ALL the Democrats in Congress with political cover WHEN they expand the Supreme Court in order to repair the damage done to it by the GOP over the last 20 year.

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JI7

(89,252 posts)
2. What he is saying is fine. The problem is the media trying ti make something of it
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:41 PM
Oct 2020

while saying nothing about Republicans blocking Obama appointees because they think only white supremacists should be judges.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
5. I agree that it's probably a strategy on the part of the Biden Campaign. If he says..
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:45 PM
Oct 2020

...if he says "I'm NOT ANSWERING that question" and is willing to take the hit for it, he'll avoid alienating both the Democrats who want to expand it AS WELL as the Democrats who don't. Why commit to a position when he's winning anyway.

It's not what I'd do. But, on the other hand, Biden is WINNING, so they must know what they're doing. (Everybody doubted the Duke of Wellington at Waterloo, when it looked like Napoleon was winning. Right up until the end, when he lost BIG time...)

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
3. Because he should expand the court regardless.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:41 PM
Oct 2020

2016 was a Russian scam that should never go unchecked. Once the breadth of corruption and filth is exposed, Americans will see packing the court as completely justified.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
6. I totally agree. I'm just questioning the campaign strategy of ducking the question.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:46 PM
Oct 2020

But as I said above, THEY'RE WINNING. Why commit to a position, tie your hands, and alienate half of your followers when you're WINNING. Unforced errors are TRUMP'S specialty.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
7. He's not going to pack the court.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:50 PM
Oct 2020

He’s going to unpack it. They started this shit and it’s time we finish it. We nail their slimy butts to the floor and never let up. They keep pulling this crap because it works and they never get punished. High road is all well and good but nothing wrong with carrying a big stick while you’re on it.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
8. Agreed, he should expand it. I'm just saying he should put the blame on Republicans for
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:56 PM
Oct 2020

for making it NECESSARY for him to do it.

Either he unpacks (expands) the court (ostensibly) because the Republican Senate insisted on jamming in Barret; or, they take the alternate approach. They WAIT for the packed, rigged SCOTUS to do something obviously radical (like killing Obamacare), and use THAT as an excuse to expand it. (While giving them an excuse to FIX Obamacare at the same time, by re-writing it. Re-writing it to either include a public option, or by phasing in Medicare for All.)

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
9. The party's strategy (talk about ACA) is pretty sound
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:57 PM
Oct 2020

IMHO. I also don’t have a problem with them ignoring or avoiding answering republican questions that are intended to change the subject. So I guess I don’t agree.

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
11. I doubt we'll have a big enough majority to pack the court.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 10:00 PM
Oct 2020

Maybe in the House but in the Senate there would be enough defections that I think there's basically no chance court packing is happening. But Biden can't say that or there would large numbers of very pissed off liberals.

I do think you're right in the sense that for there to be any hope of it happening he needs to be setting up the rationale for it right now but maybe they have decided it is too risky. Some of his enormous lead is due to "moderates" that are sick of Trump and who knows what could spook them.

Edited to add: I do think there is a slightly better chance to pass some jurisdiction stripping. The Congress can say what what the court can and cannot review. I don't know if you remember when the court ruled against the Pledge and then the entire Congress reaffirmed the pledge and tried to pass a law to strip jurisdiction from the court. Something like that.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
12. When they ask him about "packing the court"
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 10:13 PM
Oct 2020

he should say that is what Moscow Mitch has been doing the past four years.

He refused to confirm most of Obama's picks for any court to ensure that when the fix was in he'd be able to do this.

They have packed the courts and his job will be to rebalance the courts for the sake of the nation.

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