Arizona: "Something is happening with the seniors"

[brooklynite]

Politico

As Betsy Chandler delivered and installed Joe Biden yard signs at a house in Mesa recently, a senior couple approached her eagerly asking for “Republicans for Biden” signs. Chandler had to apologize — as a Democrat, she doesn’t usually carry any of those.

She gave them a standard Biden-Harris sign instead. When Chandler, a local Democratic Party vice-chair, asked why, as Republicans, they were voting for Biden, the woman said: “[Donald Trump] wouldn’t wear a mask.”

That was four days before the president tested positive for coronavirus and an outbreak ensued among Trump allies and staff.

In Arizona as elsewhere, Trump’s handling of the pandemic — even prior to his diagnosis — is proving costly, leaving him struggling to match his 2016 performance among those over the age of 65. October polling shows Biden is chipping away at Trump’s support among older white voters, especially among the once reliably Republican senior population in populous Maricopa County.

[panader0]

1. I hope this is the year we go blue.

Here in Cochise County (the Sierra Vista area), folks are predominantly repubs. Luckily
our congressional district extends up to Pima County so our Representative is a Democrat,
Ann KirkpatricK. She is heavily favored to win again.

[padfun]

21. I went to Buena High School

graduated in 73. I haven't been back there for about 15 years now.

[panader0]

22. There's a new high school now.

As a bricklayer, I worked on it for almost a year.

[padfun]

25. A new Buena? Or a second school?

nt

[panader0]

27. The old school at the corner of 90 and 92 is gone. A car dealership is there now.

The new one is on the Charleston Road. It opened in '92 I believe.

[Aristus]

42. Does Sierra Vista High School still exist?

I was in elementary school when I lived at Ft. Huachuca. But we attended several events at SVHS. I remember a huge, beautiful mural of a Hopi-style sun-image on the outer wall of the gymnasium.

Is it still there?

[panader0]

50. No. See post #27. I never knew you lived here.

[Aristus]

52. Three years on Ft. Huachuca, 1973 - 1976.

I took a look at my old neighborhood on Luke Street on Google Earth.

It's all gone. Empty fields.

The houses there were basic in the extreme (even for officers and their families). Cinderblock bungalows painted one of three pastel colors, pink, blue, or green. My house was pink.

No air conditioning back then, even for Arizona's blistering summers. Just a swamp cooler out back.

Still, growing up there as a kid was an idyllic experience.

[Sherman A1]

2. They want seniors dead

It saves on social security payments.

[Norbert]

4. And it wants Social Security to wither on the vine

trump don't need social security (he thinks) so why does anybody need it?

Any senior that votes for this madman-child is crazy.

[lagomorph777]

16. Trump will be on the Federal dole for the rest of his life.

He will get free room and board, and free medical care.
In jail.

[PufPuf23]

6. Seniors, the disabled, disadvantaged, different

Reduce SS, SSI, Medicare, VA, and retirement obligations.

Free the wealth of the departed

Throw as much of the remaining lower financial and social realms into financial chaos without adequate medical and social services.

Scam the financial markets.

[NCjack]

9. Mr Trump plans the next tax cut for his wealthy buddies will paid by Soc. Sec.

reductions, what ever it takes to reduce the money being paid to beneficiaries.

[End Of The Road]

10. Women

[PatSeg]

14. The problem with that is

they still need and want seniors' votes. Republicans and Trump rely heavily on the votes of people over 65 and dead people can't vote.

Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot. He says that virtually no one is affected by COVID, except for the elderly and people with medical conditions. In other words, a big fat 'f*ck you' to a sizable percentage of his voters. This man can't do anything right, such a loser.

[McKim]

31. Remember the Statistics on Obesity Too!

Remember the statistics on obesity too. I read this week that over 30% of Americans are obese, putting them more at risk for dying of COVID!

[Sherman A1]

33. I would believe they think that they can

rid the world of some seniors and keep his misinformed rural/blue collar base to keep them in power while they take the money and run all the way to the Cayman Islands.

[PatSeg]

35. They used to be so deliberate and organized

Now they are all over the place primarily because of their allegiance to Trump. So all they can do is lie more and cheat everyway possible. You really, really can't fool all the people all the time and in their case, they can't fool enough people to win an election.

[Initech]

32. It's much more cost effective to kill people than it is to keep people alive!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

37. Given that some 65 million people get Social Security,

even the worst-case scenario won't make a dent in those numbers.

Of course, most people are bad at math.

[reACTIONary]

55. Or, just bad. nt

[Sugarcoated]

58. They're finally catching on to that

[Fyrefox]

3. Their eyes opened, when the walls fell...

Seniors with working brains have seen through Trump's veils of deception, and are beginning to realize that Trump has 't served either them or the nation well. Trump isn't "one of them," while Biden is...

[GoCubsGo]

5. Wait until they see what he tweeted out this morning.

There are going to be even more of them looking for those signs.

For those who don't know what I'm talking about: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214283328

[RestoreAmerica2020]

7. Haven't seen..what did odious#45 tweet? Just want this nightmare to end!

..everyday it's an assault on somone. Wtf is wrong with that boy?

[getagrip_already]

19. apparently....

It's a retweet of a meme with 3 older women in wheelchairs, visible only from the neck down; you are meant to think nursing home or senior center. It isn't an elegant or a luxurious scene.

The words at the bottom are the "Biden for President" logo with the "P" crossed out. But in essence it is not going to be taken well by anyone old enough to relate.

It's like saying if you end up in this picture, you are a loser.

[RestoreAmerica2020]

39. Thanks. DUer posted..what a fuckung jerk--well Biden sends with trump behind prison

..bars-- add his kiddos too--he'll go batshit crazy.

Thing is about repubs especially vulgardon-- he can dish it out but can't take it. Yes, I expect Biden, Harris, Pelosi other Dems to be above the fray, yet we are not dealing with normal.

[aggiesal]

41. If you select the image, the image expands ...

You'll see Joe Biden's face photo-shopped into the 3rd wheelchair.

It's a dig on Joe Biden needing to be placed into a senior home.

[getagrip_already]

43. trump doesn't think - he reacts to whatever he feels will inflict pain ....

But what it is saying is that if you end up in a wheelchair in a group environment, you are a loser.

He will never in his mind be that person. He will be among bigly celebrities who will fawn over him. He will be among servants who will pamper him. He won't be around losers who are stuck with each other. In his mind.

Lots of prisons have aging populations, some in wheelchairs. Karma is slow, but delicious.

[aggiesal]

46. I can't wait for ...

Twitter campaigning,
Twitter legislation,
Twitter diplomacy,
Twitter judgements,
Twitter everything
to just stop.

Especially coming from the White House.

[tblue37]

51. You need to click on it to see the whole picture. It shows a bunch of seniors in wheelchairs,

apparently nursing home residents. Biden's face is superimposed on one man's body. The point is to suggest that Biden is a senior resident of a nursing home.

It's insulting to every senior who resides in a nursing home, and to seniors generally.

[beachbumbob]

8. more seniors who are GOP'ers areslowly waking up to the fact that are the sacrificial lambs

for GOP and their zeal to force herd immunity. Combine with the GOP determination to end Social Security AND MEDICARE......the blow out in Arizona AND FLORIDA will not go unnoticed as it will be fueled by this voters

[DownriverDem]

11. Good but

why did seniors vote repub anyway? Are they racist and/or rich? It makes no sense to me.

[not_the_one]

26. I believe it is primarily money...

Most of these seniors were boomers who had the hopes and dreams of the 60's generation. We were going to change the world. For the better.

But then we graduated from college, got a good job, to the point of investing in 401Ks, owned our own home, then retired to FL, AZ (or wherever...). Then it became all about the money. We changed the world alright, we helped elect the turd. The $$$ "owned" the ideals.

I don't believe this group of boomers are racists or haters. But they are obsessed with the $$$ and the trappings that go with it.

Sadly, there is so truth to the "money is the root of all evil" meme.

edit in bold
2nd edit, undo 1st edit

[dalton99a]

12. They know what Trump did

[getagrip_already]

20. as bad as that number is....

a doctors group put out a report yesterdaying the count is at 1/3 low. For every 2 people dying on the record, another is dying off the record.

They have receipts. It was all over the web the past few days, well, at least our corner of it. Fox won't mention it.

[NoMoreRepugs]

13. So with seniors switching to Biden, semi-intelligent RePutinicans

switching to Biden cuz of the COVID debacle JB only has a 10-11 point lead?? IMHO we are not seeing the real 15+% numbers cuz MSM has lots of political ad time to sell. Just a tinfoil hat theory.

[lagomorph777]

18. I think pollsters have tweaked their algorithms after 2016; can't blame 'em.

But they may have gone too far. I think Biden's lead will shock everybody.

[NoMoreRepugs]

40. Agree, the impact of Reputinican voters "switching" is huge.

[IronLionZion]

15. Excellent. They can purchase signs from Republican Voters Against Trump

https://rvat.org/

https://store.rvatpac.org/

[marble falls]

17. Trump has written off his strongest supporters and they're starting to get it. Except my MiL ...

she started on "Hilary's e-mails" out of the clear blue sky this last Sunday.

[Mariana]

23. We don't need all of the elderly Trump voters to turn.

The majority of seniors voted for Trump in 2016. He could not have won without them. If he doesn't get the majority of them again this time, even if they break 50-50, he's gone.

[marble falls]

30. I'm confident he's going. We need to keep voters angry until Nov 4.

[intheflow]

24. Coming soon: Maricopa Cty. Republican Party moves

all polling locations to non-wheelchair accessible to help suppress this elderly vote.

[not fooled]

28. Is this actually planned or just a good guess?

I wonder how much county officials can control voting, because fortunately AZ has a Democratic SoS. But, I wouldn't put anything past RWNJ county officials in some of the blood red counties.

[intheflow]

48. Tongue-in-cheek supposition.

I'm sure in reality they'll do something so hideous I can't imagine it.

[klook]

36. And no masks allowed

so we can check your photo ID and stop “massive voter fraud.”

[intheflow]

47. On the up side, free bleach punch for everyone!

[klook]

53. Stop COVID and whiten your teeth with every swig!

[getagrip_already]

45. Where they are going... it won't matter.

The gop is taking us to a place where we will in affect have a "one white man, one vote" restriction on voting. And then only if you have never been a registered dem or independent and can pass a poll test.

Only white male core gop voters need vote in their world. barret would be fine with that.

[StarzGuy]

29. Yes, that is where Biden needs to work.

I live in a town where democrats have the edge. So, as I approach 66 years old I can tell you the election here in Arizona will as usual be won or lost with those voters in the Phoenix Metro and surrounding communities. That is where the vast majority of Arizona voters reside.

If you were to add up every other town and area in the state you still wouldn't be able to elect Biden. So, the "valley" will be the key to a victory.
However, I don't agree that Arizona is a toss up state and remains solidly in the republican column. Sad to say.

[onetexan]

34. This is so telling! A senior lady who stood behind me in line yesterday had a list of GOP candidates

she was voting for. BUT she said 45 is a terrible man and she was voting for Biden. I hope there are more seniors like her.

[Beartracks]

57. Honestly, if they keep voting Republican for Congress and Governor, etc. ...

... they are still supporting the party of Trump, even if they help oust Trump himself. Better to shrink today's GOP and drown it in a bathtub. I'd rather they vote Blue all the way.

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[aggiesal]

38. It took a pandemic to see the light? ...

They voted this monster into office.
They should assume some of the damage.

I'm happy they're voting for Biden, but what if the pandemic hadn't happened?
With no masks required or even in question, would they still be voting for Pendejo45?

I believe so.

[catrose]

44. The pandemic motto of the Navajo nation, which covers much of AZ, is "Protect Our Elders."

Even nonindigenous people might have heard that. I know my first reaction (besides sending them a truckload of masks) was "Why doesn't my country care about me?"

Go, AZ seniors!

[RobinA]

49. Wait...

I'll take what I can get, but of everything that Trump has done for 4 years, the thing that gets them is his not wearing a mask? I don't think that bodes well for anything but the immediate future.

[Upthevibe]

54. Kick....n/t

[Blue Owl]

56. STICK A FORK IN DONNY -- HE'S DONE

n/t