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spanone

(135,844 posts)
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:49 AM Oct 2020

bill barr has not said a single, solitary word about the plot to kidnap to two governors. NOTHING.

Yet he authorized United States Attorney John Bash to probe 'unmasking'


TRUMP’S “UNMASKING” PROBE OF OBAMA AND BIDEN FOUND A WHOLE LOT OF NOTHING

In May, as the right made angry noises about what they said was the improper “unmasking” of Trumpworld figures by Barack Obama and his administration, William Barr authorized United States Attorney John Bash to probe the matter. “The Attorney General determined that certain aspects of unmasking needed to be reviewed,” Justice Department spokesperson Kerri Kupec told Fox News’s Sean Hannity at the time. “We know that unmasking inherently isn’t wrong, but...can be problematic.” The inquiry, a spinoff of John Durham’s review of the origins of the Russia investigation, appeared to be yet another effort by Barr to legitimize Donald Trump’s conspiracy theories—and to target Joe Biden and the Democrats in the run-up to the 2020 election.

But when Bash, the now-former U.S. Attorney from West Texas, concluded his investigation recently, he came up so empty-handed Barr didn’t even announce it had ended. Indeed, Bash found no wrongdoing on the part of Obama, Biden, or others in their administration and finished his inquiry without pressing any charges, the Washington Post reported Tuesday. He left the DOJ last week, but neither he nor Barr discussed the results of his probe.

That’s not necessarily unusual — as the Post points out, the DOJ doesn’t typically make announcements about probes that don’t result in charges. But this probe wasn’t exactly typical: The election year inquiry sprung from a Trump conspiracy that the Obama administration had spied on his campaign, and has helped form the basis of political attacks on Biden from the president and his allies. Trump said last week that Obama and Biden should be arrested for their supposed attempts to subvert him, and his cronies have used the ginned-up scandal in jabs at the Democrat as recently as this month. “If you’re more worried about [Trump] unmasking on a balcony with no one close to him than you were by the Obama/Biden administration unmasking (aka illegally spying on) their political opponents, my diagnosis is you have [Trump Derangement Syndrome],” Rand Paul tweeted October 6, referring to the president’s bizarre appearance on the White House balcony upon returning to the White House after his COVID hospitalization. “My prescription is to put down your phone.”

That Barr has not released the results of the Bash probe that would torpedo such attacks shows that he continues to serve the president’s interests, even if his fishing expedition didn’t turn up any wrongdoing. Still, that’s unlikely to satisfy Trump, who has been frustrated with the Attorney General since he warned that Durham’s probe into the origins of the Russia investigation would not be completed by Election Day — because what good would the inquiry be if it didn’t turn up an October surprise? “Bill Barr is going to go down as either the greatest Attorney General in the history of the country,” Trump told Fox Business last week, “or he’s going to go down as, you know, a very sad situation.” The fact that Barr can’t seem to come up with actual dirt isn’t stopping Trump from flinging wild, desperate allegations that “THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS” in history had been committed against him. “BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN,” Trump tweeted last week. “GOT CAUGHT!!!”


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/trump-unmasking-probe-obama-biden-found-nothing



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bill barr has not said a single, solitary word about the plot to kidnap to two governors. NOTHING. (Original Post) spanone Oct 2020 OP
Hard to talk when you're on a ventilator. Nevilledog Oct 2020 #1
From your lips..... spanone Oct 2020 #2
Me too GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #3
Been holding my breath all month, so far so good. When I heard traitor pompeo say Eliot Rosewater Oct 2020 #4
His boys got caught. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #5
Barr is hiding out while he finishes his book. Progressive dog Oct 2020 #6
Barr aside, this could be a very interesting legal case Amishman Oct 2020 #7
They bought and tested explosives etc., Hortensis Oct 2020 #12
Ah, I missed the explosives part. That'll rule out the defense I mentioned Amishman Oct 2020 #14
:). Think so. I'd never want Hortensis Oct 2020 #15
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Oct 2020 #8
⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ ⇧ spanone Oct 2020 #9
But his DoJ is going after Melania's friend. fierywoman Oct 2020 #10
what was it Redd Foxx said eShirl Oct 2020 #11
what republican has? beachbumbob Oct 2020 #13
The perps were fucking Fascists,.. billy the Gestapo barr is a fucking Fascist.. magicarpet Oct 2020 #16

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
4. Been holding my breath all month, so far so good. When I heard traitor pompeo say
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:53 AM
Oct 2020

he was gonna release emails I assumed they would fabricate emails out of whole cloth to make our leaders look really bad.

If Barr does not start arresting or implying guilt then I will have been wrong and I will be SO GLAD...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be wrong...

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. His boys got caught.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:54 AM
Oct 2020

Some of his FBI agents apparently went rogue and supported the Constitution.

PS - cool photo of Barr talking out of the side of his mouth.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
6. Barr is hiding out while he finishes his book.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:57 AM
Oct 2020

He needs money to pay for his defense, he thinks maybe a book deal will fund it. The Republicans will deny knowing who he is after the election.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
7. Barr aside, this could be a very interesting legal case
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 11:58 AM
Oct 2020

I've been trying to find out if they had made any preparations outside if just talking about it.

If the answer is no, this gets into a very interesting gray area of the law. Where is the line between conspiracy and fantasy?

Some may recall the case of 'Cannibal Cop' Gilberto Valle. He was convicted of plotting to kidnap, murder, and eat specific women. He was convicted and faced life in prison, his defense was that he had a fetish and the discussion and planning had been fantasy. His appeal resulted in the conviction being overturned (United States v Gilberto Valle).

If the wannabe kidnappers here didn't advance past discussion, they might attempt the same defense.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. They bought and tested explosives etc.,
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:08 PM
Oct 2020

were spied on as they plotted, and when arrested wereshopping for what they needed for the kidnapping. The FBI was watching them for some months, delaying arrests while they fashioned their own rope and noose.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
14. Ah, I missed the explosives part. That'll rule out the defense I mentioned
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:15 PM
Oct 2020

The article I had read mostly talked about impersonating a pizza delivery then dumping her in a lake.

They're toast then.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. :). Think so. I'd never want
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:28 PM
Oct 2020

the FBI after me. Especially with today’s electronica surveillance. Can’t even fake your own kidnapping and run off to Florida without having the FBI waiting at Disney World for you.

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
11. what was it Redd Foxx said
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:02 PM
Oct 2020

beauty is only skin deep, but ugly is down to the bone

He's either sick or hiding.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
16. The perps were fucking Fascists,.. billy the Gestapo barr is a fucking Fascist..
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:34 PM
Oct 2020

Barr does not wish to light the ass of a fucking Fascist brethren on fire.

Barr only pours gasoline on ANTI-FASCISTS,... and then sets them a flame.

Or guns them down in extra judicial cold blooded murder.

See below,....

Last Saturday Trump supporters held a large rally and fought with anti-racism protesters in violent exchanges.

Reinoehl, who regularly attended the protests, had told Vice News that he had thought he and a friend were going to be stabbed by Danielson.

"I had no choice. I mean, I, I had a choice. I could have sat there and watched them kill a friend of mine of colour. But I wasn't going to do that," he said.

On Thursday President Trump had highlighted the killing of Danielson, tweeting "Why aren't the Portland police arresting the cold blooded killer of Aaron "Jay" Danielson. Do your job, and do it fast.".

Antifa, short for "anti-fascist", is a loosely-affiliated network of mainly far-left activists.

What do we know about the arrest?
A warrant for Reinoehl's arrest was issued and he was located by agents on Thursday in Lacey, Washington about 120 miles (193km) north of Portland.

Thurston County Sheriff's Lieutenant Ray Brady said it was not clear why the suspect was in Lacey and he did not believe the suspect lived at the address.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54023227

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