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New North Carolina poll (NYT/Siena, A+): Biden +4, Cunningham +4 (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Good news but the amount of undecided is huge compared to other states & nationally. Statistical Oct 2020 #1
NYT/Siena polls typically have higher number of undecideds Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #4
Not necessarily a bad thing kurtcagle Oct 2020 #2
If this holds, it means that Trump will need to win two thirds of the undecideds to win the state. Bleacher Creature Oct 2020 #3

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
1. Good news but the amount of undecided is huge compared to other states & nationally.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 01:29 PM
Oct 2020

The details of the poll aren't available yet but if we assume ~3% third party that means still 9% undecided in NC. Most polls are 3% to 5%.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
4. NYT/Siena polls typically have higher number of undecideds
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 02:19 PM
Oct 2020

That aspect is not particularly unusual or concerning with the presidential numbers. But the Cunningham situation obviously changed with the sexting scandal. His net approval dropped from 46-29 to 40-41. That's undoubtedly contributing to the 22% undecideds. Instead of shifting to Tillis it looks like some Cunningham leaners now list themselves as undecided.

It's still a decent position. But this race should have been all but over. Other senate races moved in our favor based on Trump's debate performance. One GOP pollster said that debate caused 3-4 point shifts in senate races all over the country. But instead of Cunningham benefiting from that his own issues stalled progress and moved the race against the national grain.

kurtcagle

(1,603 posts)
2. Not necessarily a bad thing
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 01:42 PM
Oct 2020

That there is a 9% undecided contingent in NC, traditionally a Reddish state at this point, means that support for Trump is VERY soft there, and that Graham is likely more vulnerable than he appears in polling.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
3. If this holds, it means that Trump will need to win two thirds of the undecideds to win the state.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 02:04 PM
Oct 2020

And since a chunk of the remaining vote will likely go to third parties, that percentage is probably higher. I'd take those odds if I'm Biden.

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