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Nevilledog

(51,118 posts)
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 02:51 PM Oct 2020

Giuliani and the New York Post Are Pushing Russian Disinformation. It's a Big Test for the Media.

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Tweet text: Tim O'Brien
@TimOBrien
Here's the most detailed and best takedown yet of how the Post mishandled the Biden kompromat that Giuliani and Bannon managed to dump into its pages. Via @DavidCornDC

Giuliani and the New York Post are pushing Russian disinformation. It's a big test for the media.
With its new Biden story, Murdoch's tabloid is a useful idiot for Vladimir Putin.
motherjones.com[/divj

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/giuliani-and-the-new-york-post-are-pushing-russian-disinformation-its-a-big-test-for-the-media

A newly discovered laptop, the FBI, a trove of emails, October, a presidential election—it sounds familiar. Especially when you add in a Russian disinformation campaign. On Wednesday, the New York Post released what it hailed as a bombshell: an unidentified computer repair store owner in Delaware had come to possess a laptop that contained Hunter Biden emails (and purportedly a sex tape), the hard drive and computer was seized by the FBI, the store owner then passed a copy of the hard drive to Rudy Giuliani, and one of the emails suggested that Hunter, who served on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma, may have in 2015 introduced a Burisma official to his dad, Vice President Joe Biden. The story depicts this as a big scandal, and Guiliani tweeted, “Much more to come.”

But the key point of the article was predicated on false information that Giuliani has been spreading for a long time—and that appears to be linked to a Russian disinformation operation that the Post neglected to note in its article. That is, the Post piece, based on an unproven smear, is in sync with Moscow’s ongoing effort to influence the 2020 election to help President Donald Trump retain power. (The FBI and other parts of the US intelligence community have stated that Vladimir Putin is once again attacking the US political system to boost Trump.) And this story presents a challenge to the American media: how to report on an orchestrated campaign to affect the election that relies on disinformation, salacious and sensational material, and the revival of allegations that have already been debunked.

The bad faith animating the Post story is demonstrated by its open embrace—in the first sentence—of a demonstrably false narrative and by its failure to report Giuliani’s association with a Russian intelligence agent who the Department of Treasury has accused of interfering in the 2020 election.

The article begins: “Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post.” The claim that Biden forced the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor to protect Burisma has been the centerpiece of Giuliani’s long-running, Fox-hyped effort (on behalf of his client Donald Trump) to dig up dirt on Biden in the former Soviet republic.

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Budi

(15,325 posts)
2. Here'e the NYPost story that just appeared on my news feed.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 03:21 PM
Oct 2020

This is straight up Guiliani/Bannon type shit with sick pics of Hunter.
The world sees it too now.

How'd they get the pics (supposedly) from Hunter's phone?

Considering the lengths they went with media to relentlessly destroy the character of Hillary Clinton, this does not surpruse me.

The NY Post is no more than the Nat'l Enquirer of 2016.

I sincerely hope that voters are more aware this election of 2020, than they were in 2016.

I am so sorry for Hunter Biden & the Biden family.
I hope they remain as strong in purpose as Hillary was to her own convictions, regardless of the propaganda that came at her from every direction but one. Her loyal Democratic Party.

😕

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/hunter-biden-emails-show-leveraging-connections-with-dad-to-boost-burisma-pay/amp/

 

RGTIndy

(203 posts)
5. Calling Murdoch a "useful idiot" implies that he doesn't know what he's doing.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 03:29 PM
Oct 2020

I find no evidence to support that conclusion.

Hugin

(33,159 posts)
7. There's whatever you'd want on there.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 03:38 PM
Oct 2020

Anything!

If there's something missing it soon will be on there too.

I'm sure there are plenty of mentions of the violence in Portland and Antifa. Even though those events are subsequent to the age of this laptop by at least three years.

Gee... No Wikileaks to catapult the bullshit. Only the NY Post and elements of the NYT so far.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
9. It was an epic fail
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 03:53 PM
Oct 2020

And Giuliani should be arrested for this fraud.

Thank goodness Twitter and Facebook have zapped it.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
10. Thanks I've been busy today.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 03:54 PM
Oct 2020

I knew that their story requires bending time. This mysterious laptop sounds like someone finding a copy of the Declaration behind a clown painting.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
15. One tweet by Maggie Haberman is not a media source...
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 04:44 PM
Oct 2020

...and it was followed by actual analysis of the reported story.

demmiblue

(36,863 posts)
16. Umm, NSS... of course a tweet isn't a "media source"/or story.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 04:52 PM
Oct 2020

But it has been reported on by a main media source (with some fact checking).

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
13. JUST IN: Twitter Blocks Users from Sharing NY Post Story on Hunter Biden, Claims Link 'Harmful'
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 04:40 PM
Oct 2020

AH. hANNITY IS HAVING A TISSY FIT.



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