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What do DUers think about this from Chris Hayes (Original Post) malaise Oct 2020 OP
Bush / Gore was super close all year Eid Ma Clack Shaw Oct 2020 #1
I agree malaise Oct 2020 #2
In other words, he's counting on the Supreme Court to give him the election Rhiannon12866 Oct 2020 #3
Yep but it won't work this time malaise Oct 2020 #4
It's absolutely unbelievable that 3x, just in my lifetime, Rhiannon12866 Oct 2020 #7
Me too. Native Oct 2020 #8
The game in CA... Hugin Oct 2020 #12
Someone I know says ReTHUGs are all in to steal the election malaise Oct 2020 #13
I think the shenanigans in CA are for the down ballot candidates. Hugin Oct 2020 #14
If I Could Rec A Post... ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #15
Loser gonna lose. That is all. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #5
Really So Worn Out With All THe Scare Suppositions Me. Oct 2020 #6
+1 BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #9
+1 To You Me. Oct 2020 #11
+2 crickets Oct 2020 #18
There will be some idle flailing and whining Sympthsical Oct 2020 #10
I thought it was good pattyloutwo Oct 2020 #16
Yes this is their plan, but it's not Bush v Gore. It's 2020. They just cannot get with the times lettucebe Oct 2020 #17

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
1. Bush / Gore was super close all year
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 11:00 AM
Oct 2020

And as poor a SCOTUS decision as it was, the Gore team made bizarre tactical errors post-election which didn’t help at all.

Trying to thread that needle through multiple states which, in all likelihood, is what Trump will need, is a different matter entirely.

Rhiannon12866

(205,759 posts)
3. In other words, he's counting on the Supreme Court to give him the election
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 11:03 AM
Oct 2020

Since he's not expected to win. That's why he's pushing so hard to get his nominee in at the very last minute.

Rhiannon12866

(205,759 posts)
7. It's absolutely unbelievable that 3x, just in my lifetime,
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 11:23 AM
Oct 2020

The choice of the American people did not assume the presidency. Florida SoS Katherine Harris and the Supreme Court in 2000, Ohio SoS Ken Blackwell in 2004 and the Electoral College in 2016. Something here is definitely not right.

Hugin

(33,177 posts)
12. The game in CA...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 12:05 PM
Oct 2020

Is an old and fairly obvious one. It also is one of the weaknesses of early voting.

During the early voting the ballot totals turned in by party are public information or can be derived. The game is one assumes that all of the Rs are voting for the R candidates and the Ds for D candidates. If your party is in deficit then miraculously on election day the number of ballots collected from the drop boxes exceeds the deficit number plus any buffer required to avoid any mandatory recount.

Voila! You win.

Oldest game in the book. It's what happened in WI with their recall. Some County Clerk in a heavily Republican area found a few bags of 'uncounted ballots' she'd overlooked and well the recall failed. This failure was enforced by the corrupt Supreme Court in WI. Game over.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
13. Someone I know says ReTHUGs are all in to steal the election
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 12:25 PM
Oct 2020

led by their governors to force this into the courts. I disagreed with him.

Hugin

(33,177 posts)
14. I think the shenanigans in CA are for the down ballot candidates.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 12:37 PM
Oct 2020

Even though Chumperdink believes, of course, it's all about him.

Manipulation required to save his pasty buttocks would be monumental and getting a buy-in by the Republican establishment to jump on their swords right now for his benefit is questionable.

CA Republicans took a real stinging in 2018.

They need to re-establish a foothold in CA. It'll be a subtle move in line with the long game. Something, Trump is incapable of even contemplating. He wants it all now and feels he's entitled to it.

That's not to say, if they see an opportunity to push him up they won't. However, from the looks of things, they want to be rid of him. Their overall agenda remains unchanged, though. It was there long before Trump and it'll be there until the Sun burns out.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. Really So Worn Out With All THe Scare Suppositions
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 11:18 AM
Oct 2020

not at all productive but not surprised Hayes is doing this

pattyloutwo

(279 posts)
16. I thought it was good
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 12:50 PM
Oct 2020

It pointed out that Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett all worked on Bush v. Gore and reminded us how unethical, wrong, and dangerous to democracy that decision was to not count the votes.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
17. Yes this is their plan, but it's not Bush v Gore. It's 2020. They just cannot get with the times
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:58 PM
Oct 2020

There may be a state or three that goes for tRump, but there's not going to be any hanging chads this time around. With all their chicanery and voter suppression (let's not count the brown votes!), it will still be a landslide for Biden.

How do I know? Well, did tRump make any effort to win a new voter in the last 3+ years? Even once? No, he did not. He made every effort to chase away voters though, and it seems to have worked splendidly. In years past that would have been all we'd have heard; you have to win new voters, blah blah blah, but in tRump's case they say nothing? It's been obvious his entire term that he could never win a second.

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