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reggieandlee

(780 posts)
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 11:28 AM Oct 2020

BTRTN: Ten Days in November... Would You Make This Deal to Get Rid of Trump?

Born To Run The Numbers on what life will be like after Election Day: a protracted crisis in which Trump wails that the election has been stolen from him, lawsuits filed in every state where Trump claims that the fraudulent ballots cost him the Presidency, and the outcome of the election is in limbo as societal polarization reaches fever pitch. But is it all so much posturing so that Trump can strike a deal?

http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2020/10/btrtn-ten-days-in-november-would-you.html

Excerpts: "Stand back and stand by. With these words in the debate, the President of the United States gave a clear indication of just how ugly he will let things get as this nation tries to navigate one of the most consequential and challenging elections in our history... and as he personally tries to avoid the fate that awaits him if he loses...Here at BTRTN, we’ve long held that the primary reason that Donald Trump wants to stay President is so that he can stay out of jail.
"There is, perhaps, a broader vision of all of the above that provides a unified theory of all of Trump’s actions. Trump knows he is going to lose the popular vote again, and he can be pretty certain that this time he is going to lose in the Electoral College. His hope is to keep the vote close enough in just enough swing states that he can claim massive voter fraud, and sue to have enough mail-in ballots thrown out to put the decision in the hands of the Supreme Court. But maybe that isn’t really the point. What if his real goal is this: to amass enough leverage that he can cut a deal...Yeah, Trump doesn’t really want to take a chance on a Supreme Court that could easily slam him down 9-0 based on the speciousness of his claim and the absence of evidence of substantial voter fraud. If that happened, he’d be out of office – and completely vulnerable to all of the criminal charges that Vance, Letitia James, and the Feds can pile up... But if he could put together enough bargaining chips, bluster, and bluffing in the form of a threat to create utter chaos around the question of the election and transition, maybe he can create the perfect deal to walk away a free man..."

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BTRTN: Ten Days in November... Would You Make This Deal to Get Rid of Trump? (Original Post) reggieandlee Oct 2020 OP
winner will announced 1 min after Ca polls close on Nov3rd, no protesting an outcome you lose beachbumbob Oct 2020 #1
Um, unlikely that winner will be announced on Election Day or evening... reggieandlee Oct 2020 #2
Wanna bet on that? I do. SoonerPride Oct 2020 #3
True, but we'll have a good idea, radius777 Oct 2020 #4
I'd bet you Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #5
The network projections have nothing to do with counting absentee ballots grantcart Oct 2020 #6
Not so much when he is holed up in Moscow beachbumbob Oct 2020 #8
Only 4 states don't count before Election Day and they will be no factor. beachbumbob Oct 2020 #7
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. winner will announced 1 min after Ca polls close on Nov3rd, no protesting an outcome you lose
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 12:16 PM
Oct 2020

by 15 million votes and have 380 electoral votes

reggieandlee

(780 posts)
2. Um, unlikely that winner will be announced on Election Day or evening...
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:07 PM
Oct 2020

... given how many of the mail-in votes will need to be counted in the following days.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
4. True, but we'll have a good idea,
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:12 PM
Oct 2020

since the results of Florida, Ohio and North Carolina will likely fully be in by election night or the next day. If Biden wins one or more of those states then Trump is basically finished.

Turin_C3PO

(14,022 posts)
5. I'd bet you
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020

that Biden will have a big enough lead to be declared winner shortly after the polls close in the West. Trump will not be allowed to cut a deal. His threats are empty.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. The network projections have nothing to do with counting absentee ballots
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:18 PM
Oct 2020

You must know this because you can recall networks calling a state minutes after voting closes.

Mississippi, Massachusetts and Washington State will all be called within minutes of poll closing because they can see who voted and project on that.

The election will be called very early Nov 3rd. The electoral college could be determined within an hour of Florida closing.

There is no deal to get rid of Trump. As soon as he loses he will be marketing a $ 19.99/ MO sign up to his followers to join him in a special club. If he gets 5 million idiots to sign up he will have more money than he ever has.

He will not stop. He will attack both Democrats and Republicans. We will hear about him every day until he is dead.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
7. Only 4 states don't count before Election Day and they will be no factor.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 01:22 PM
Oct 2020

Come back 11pm on nov3 so we can discuss why biden was declared the presumptive winner in a crushing defeat of trump

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