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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,207 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:01 PM Oct 2020

I keep on hearing from the Trumpists that Biden is somehow a tool of China.

And honestly, I have no idea where that is coming from or what sort of evidence they are claiming supports it.

My gut just thinks that it's little more than a reflexive effort at projection and little more than switching out "Trump" for "Biden" and "Russia" for "China."

Is it even worth asking where these people are coming from, or is this just as baseless as it appears to be?

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I keep on hearing from the Trumpists that Biden is somehow a tool of China. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2020 OP
It's another instance of projection. Mike 03 Oct 2020 #1
To not have a good trade relationship with China is economic suicide. roamer65 Oct 2020 #2
Hunter Biden: What was he doing in Ukraine and China? Klaralven Oct 2020 #3
I posted about this as well Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #4
I have no clue where that comes from either. nt doc03 Oct 2020 #5
Biden is obviously decent and presidential so the best they can do is... jcgoldie Oct 2020 #6
I live among them, I know why, gab13by13 Oct 2020 #7

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. It's another instance of projection.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:04 PM
Oct 2020

Trump wants us to forget he begged Xi to buy soybeans (allegedly to help him win re-election), and that was about the only concession Trump even got from the prolonged Tariff Wars.

Xi is another leader who flattered Trump just enough that Trump thought they had "a great relationship" while China continued to expand its tentacles into the territories of our allies while the US disappeared from the international scene.

Also, because of that fake friendship that exists only in Trump's mind, the US continues to be more less silent on China's human rights abuses.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
2. To not have a good trade relationship with China is economic suicide.
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:10 PM
Oct 2020

Also we lose our biggest bargaining chip for influence in China.

The Russians? They can go fuck themselves.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
3. Hunter Biden: What was he doing in Ukraine and China?
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:19 PM
Oct 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132

There is mostly nothing there.

Hunter is sort of a sleazy character, but it is not unusual for Presidents to have sketchy family members and relatives. Neil Bush, W's brother and GHW's son, would be an example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Bush

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,445 posts)
4. I posted about this as well
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:24 PM
Oct 2020

a couple of months ago and came up empty. Russia is obviously going to bat for Trump, so *somebody* has to be going to bat for Biden (presumably to create a "both sides" narrative). I don't know of any substantive evidence or information that suggests that there is any kind of comparable situation between Trump and Biden and Russia and China. China is also- per our illustrious President- our #1 enemy because of COVID, so, of course, he thinks that tying Biden to China damages him.

jcgoldie

(11,652 posts)
6. Biden is obviously decent and presidential so the best they can do is...
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 12:27 PM
Oct 2020

...try to paint him as a tool of leftist extremists, black lives matter protesters, china, or whatever boogeyman they can conjure up.

gab13by13

(21,414 posts)
7. I live among them, I know why,
Mon Oct 19, 2020, 01:07 PM
Oct 2020

We are all to stop blaming Trump for the virus, no one could have done a better job than Trump. It is all China's fault, they created the virus in a lab just to stop Trump from being reelected, anyone who blames Trump for the virus is a Chinese commie lover.

That's about it.

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