biden says he is losing AZ, FL, and MI co we had better send him $$ right away

[msongs]

his official ad on facebook says that and his polls show the race much closer than what the media is saying.
sort of an odd thing to say seems to me

[relayerbob]

1. Sure it's not a PAC?

They have been sending out panic inducing e-mails for two days. Getting very old

[regnaD kciN]

9. The ones I've been seeing are from the "Biden Victory Fund"...

...which I’m pretty sure is the actual campaign.

[relayerbob]

12. Yep.

I haven't seen that ad, though, which is why I asked. "Bold PAC" and a few others are going extra hystrionic, and I've now dropped thiem from my emails for that reason.

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. That's not the official campaign fund- Biden for President is official.

Biden Victory Fund is joint Biden/DNC fund for down ballot races.

[sunonmars]

2. This is normal for every single bloody election ever, its fundraising.

[SoonerPride]

3. The less info you get from Facebook the more informed you will be

[DBoon]

6. Facebook makes people stupid

Don't be stupid

[Turin_C3PO]

4. It's just

to make sure people get out and vote. I haven’t seen any polls that indicate that the race is tightening in any meaningful way.

[regnaD kciN]

11. As I said below...

...I don’t think a steady drumbeat of “we’re losing!!!” is a good way to get people to show up and vote, particularly this year, when doing so puts them in at least a slightly-higher risk of COVID.

[brewens]

23. That was always my theory when recruiting and registering donors for blood drives.

It's always going good. We'd be dead all morning and a couple people would come in and comment about it. I'd say we were pretty busy for awhile, and that they had good timing showing up now. I like the join in, everybody's doing it message.

Last winter the blood center I'm retired from had ads saying donations were down, as was the need for blood at hospitals, but we still need you! WTF was that? That was my reaction. I say always get footage of friendly staff and smiling donors at a busy drive. Get some to comment and use them in the ads. They recruit people just by their friends being jazzed that they got on TV.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. A common fundraising ploy.

[regnaD kciN]

7. I can understand the campaign wanting to frame it as close...

...but I really don’t understand the point of ads with “poll results” (which don’t seem even reasonably close to any found on the major analysis sites) showing us losing each and every swing state by several points. I know we want to avoid complacency but, as an excellent DKos article from a few days ago pointed out, continually proclaiming “ignore the experts – we’re going to lose” seems pretty counterproductive. If even the campaign is admitting that Trump will be re-elected, why bother standing in line for hours to vote (particularly during a new outbreak of COVID)? Why bother “chipping in” $$$ for a lost cause. Like I said, I understand not wanting people to be overconfident, but this approach makes no sense to me.

[LisaL]

20. It makes sense to me.

In 2016, people were convinced that "the cake was baked." I was never convinced because many polls were too close. But people presumably became complacent and some didn't bother to vote because supposedly we had it in the bag.

[honest.abe]

30. There were a number of reasons Hillary lost in 2016...

I think complacency, that she had in the bag, would not have been in the top five or so.

[Alhena]

8. Yeah I'm not a fan of that ad approach either

[Wounded Bear]

10. I've been getting a lot of those...

"OMG we're losing!!!!!" emails lately.

I find them amusing.

[relayerbob]

13. Here is a story about it

https://medium.com/discourse/why-joe-bidens-team-is-raising-the-alarm-d68fb287037

[msongs]

19. yes that's the same content in the ad I saw nt

[Sogo]

21. From that article:

"But the fact that it could even be close is a damning indictment of the Democratic party if there ever was one."

I don't agree at all. If it's a damning indictment of anyone, it's a damning indictment of Fox News/OAN, rwing radio, and social media. The Democratic party has no control over what sources of "information" people consume, and unfortunately, that's what forms their opinions.

[relayerbob]

22. I'm not supporting the article

That line pissed me off, too.

[blogslut]

14. Don't send money then.

Just vote for him.

[mucifer]

15. 538 has it tightening a tiny bit Joe has 86% chance of winning a few days ago it was 88%

[LizBeth]

16. +1

[Vivienne235729]

17. Those ads on fb always has him behind in order to get you to donate more.

Don't donate to those. Donate to him through actblue.com

[Johnny2X2X]

24. Not losing any of them. Especially MI.

Link to tweet

?s=21

[KY_EnviroGuy]

25. Emails I get are from joebiden.com, democrats.com and dscc.org.....

and an occasional one from 314 Action Fund regarding President Obama's work.

Nothing indicating any high level of alarm as of today........

[ChoppinBroccoli]

26. You Wouldn't Send Him Money If You Thought It Was A Blowout

I panicked a bit when I saw that ad, but then I realized that it was just a way to get people to keep contributing AND doing the groundwork. You can say it's dishonest, but I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, that he just wants us to keep our foot on the gas and not let up. I think everyone knows he's blowing Trump out of the water in the 3 swing States that will put him over the top, but if he actually said that, who would give him money in those States? I wouldn't worry too much about it. His own internal polling (which is the gold standard, and usually wildly accurate, when it comes to polling) was leaked last week and showed him way ahead in those States.

[Awsi Dooger]

27. I received an email like that today from Biden's camp

It said, "You're not going to like these polls..."

I didn't even open it. It was obviously another solicitation for money. I donated twice recently and all of a sudden they pound me with at least 3-4 requests per day.

[redstateblues]

28. I hate that crap. I never send money as a response to that tactic.

For instance, Mark Kelley's campaign asked for $ because they are losing. It's just not true.

[kacekwl]

29. Why would I send money to a

candidate who thinks they may lose ? I donate to someone I like and tells me what they will do when they win with my help.

[honest.abe]

31. Yeah, I dont get this either.

It turns me off to donate. I really wish they wouldn't use this tactic.

[clutterbox1830]

32. It is a donation ploy, but it turns me off to donate when I see it.

Since it makes it feels that all my previous donations were for nothing so I'm less likely to donate.