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brewens

(13,629 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:34 PM Oct 2020

I'm under the impression that Kavanaugh could be a target for impeachment. Is that a real

possibility? Democrats were denied documents they requested. There could be something serious in there along with lying to Congress. McConnel said , "anybody but Kavanaugh" from trumps list. There had to be a reason for that. He must have thought he'd never get him confirmed.

So we'd never get enough Republicans to vote to remove him. Some might, but the rest would vote no, just because they can, no matter how serious the charges. But what if they got the idea that Biden would expand the court if they didn't throw Kavanaugh off?

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I'm under the impression that Kavanaugh could be a target for impeachment. Is that a real (Original Post) brewens Oct 2020 OP
No. Not a chance in hell. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2020 #1
Probably perjured himself too. Kingofalldems Oct 2020 #2
Interesting scenario Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #3
Give us Kavanaugh edhopper Oct 2020 #4
without a senate super majority impeachment is a dead end. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #5
Like a president it takes a super majority to remove a judge Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #6
Is there going to be some new republicans that will vote against their party? Claustrum Oct 2020 #7
Wouldn't count on it. Hoyt Oct 2020 #8
No...you would need 67 votes in the Senate. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #9
Sure, he could be impeached in the House, provided Nancy Pelosi wanted dware Oct 2020 #10
Prosecution vs impeachment JT45242 Oct 2020 #11
Yeah, and I might win the lottery tomorrow. dware Oct 2020 #14
No. It takes 67 votes to convict in the Senate. Statistical Oct 2020 #12
It better be damn serious for Democrats to risk wasting their time on. Only one Supreme has... TreasonousBastard Oct 2020 #13
If...if Trump is proven to have illegally, illegitimately risen to office a case could be wiggs Oct 2020 #15
Sure, but even if Trump says "yes we changed votes in 2016" it wouldn't matter Polybius Oct 2020 #17
McConnell's "anybody but Kavanaugh" could mean Retrograde Oct 2020 #16
Not possible at this time beachbumbob Oct 2020 #18
Nope. It's going to be a long time coming before you see bipartisanship in the Senate no_hypocrisy Oct 2020 #19

Voltaire2

(13,213 posts)
5. without a senate super majority impeachment is a dead end.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:37 PM
Oct 2020

expansion and/or term limits are achievable.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,290 posts)
6. Like a president it takes a super majority to remove a judge
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:37 PM
Oct 2020

Something we need to keep in mind. Any such move would require overwhelming evidence.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
7. Is there going to be some new republicans that will vote against their party?
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:38 PM
Oct 2020

I just don't see any of the existing republicans that will do it. So no, even if we have the evidence, I doubt we can remove any SC justices.

dware

(12,449 posts)
10. Sure, he could be impeached in the House, provided Nancy Pelosi wanted
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:41 PM
Oct 2020

to waste her time, all it takes is a simple majority in the House to impeach, the Senate is where we run into trouble, you're not going to get the needed 2/3rds majority to vote to convict and remove, it just ain't happening.

Better solution, expand the SC to rebalance the court.

JT45242

(2,304 posts)
11. Prosecution vs impeachment
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

There are two avenues. They can work on prosecuting both ACB and Kavanaugh on several fronts.

For both.
Each omission on the disclosure form is a felony it says so on teh form.
They lied during their initial confirmation to the federal judiciary.

For Kavanaugh

The financials scream that he should be prosecuted. The mysterious payoff of over one year's salary on credit cards screams of tax fraud, bribery, or most likely both.

The ties to Deutschebank and the Trump loans could also loom over Brett.

They could go after impeaching them (and a bunch of others who lied in their confirmation hearings).

There is always the threat of impeachment and then stating that whatever they discover will be turned over to the FBI and IRS for possible prosecution may be enough to get many of the unqualified to simply resign rather than risk the exposure.

dware

(12,449 posts)
14. Yeah, and I might win the lottery tomorrow.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:46 PM
Oct 2020

Your scenario is as likely as me winning the lotto, IOW, zip, zilch, zero and you won't even see it happening in the House, nor President Biden's DOJ.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
12. No. It takes 67 votes to convict in the Senate.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

How well did impeaching Trump work.

Now sure they can impeach him in the House and the by party line vote he will be exonerated in the Senate.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
13. It better be damn serious for Democrats to risk wasting their time on. Only one Supreme has...
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:46 PM
Oct 2020

ever been impeached, and that didn't end well.

https://www.history.com/news/has-a-u-s-supreme-court-justice-ever-been-impeached

In 1804, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Associate Justice Samuel Chase. A signer of the Declaration of Independence, Chase was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court by President George Washington in 1796. A Federalist, Chase irked Thomas Jefferson and his Republican allies in Congress, and was impeached on politically motivated charges of acting in a partisan manner during several trials. However, in 1805 Chase was acquitted by the Senate, a decision that helped safeguard the independence of the judiciary. He served on the court until his death in 1811.

In 1969, Abe Fortas became the first—and, to date, only—Supreme Court justice to resign under the threat of impeachment. Named to the court by President Lyndon Johnson in 1965, Fortas was forced to step down due to financial improprieties that involved him agreeing to act as a paid consultant to the family foundation of a man under investigation for securities fraud.

In addition to Samuel Chase, 14 other federal judges (who are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate) have been impeached over the course of American history, on charges ranging from drunkenness on the bench to accepting bribes. The first impeachment was in 1803 and the most recent was in 2010. Eight of the jurists were convicted by the Senate and removed from office, while three were acquitted and three resigned.


wiggs

(7,819 posts)
15. If...if Trump is proven to have illegally, illegitimately risen to office a case could be
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:46 PM
Oct 2020

made for impeaching his SCOTUS picks. Not because his picks were criminals or incompetent but because he shouldn't have gotten the picks in the first place.

Polybius

(15,507 posts)
17. Sure, but even if Trump says "yes we changed votes in 2016" it wouldn't matter
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:54 PM
Oct 2020

The constitution says whoever gets 270 is President, it doesn’t mention how they get to that number. They would still need 67 votes to remove any of his judges and Justices. So you are correct, but no Republican will do it.

Retrograde

(10,163 posts)
16. McConnell's "anybody but Kavanaugh" could mean
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:54 PM
Oct 2020

Kav would not necessary vote along the lines expected - i.e., Moscow Mitch may have thought he wouldn't stay bought. Much as I object to him sitting on the bench, he's not the legal lightweight Barrett seems to be.

Or there could be some other things in his background that they didn't want to come to light. Hmmm - if the Dems take the Senate, even if they don't have a supermajority, they'd be more likely to conduct an impeachment trial like a real trial, with evidence and testimony from witnesses. Might not be able to remove him on votes, but sure could pressure him by threatening to shine a big bright light in those dark corners. "Gee, Mr. Kavanaugh - could you explain why that debt of yours suddenly went bye-bye shortly before your nomination?" And I'm sure there's dirt (or at least some rather shady things) about other Trump appointees to lower courts.

no_hypocrisy

(46,231 posts)
19. Nope. It's going to be a long time coming before you see bipartisanship in the Senate
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 04:44 PM
Oct 2020

for more pedestrian matters. Impeachment? Huh uh.

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