Steve Schmidt: "I ran the Roberts and Alito confirmations"

[melman]

What a thing to be bragging about. This guys sucks.

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[DLCWIdem]

1. I know nothing to brag about but maybe he would know where the dirt is buried

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I like what Schmidt is doing as a Never-Trumper, but

he shouldn't be bragging about Alito, who is the second-worst Justice on the Court - just behind Thomas (we'll see how bad Barrett turns out to be, but Alito is just terrible).

[LisaM]

3. Roberts is terrible.

Just because he drifts to the center every now and then is nothing to write home about (not to mention, Bush should have not even been President).

I do not trust the Lincoln Project. They are running potent ads, but they still want their crony-infested "small" government by the minority in the long run.

[Polybius]

5. He's about equal to Thomas

The only way Alito is better is that for some reason, he's not a "larger than life" figure. Conservatives worshiped Scalia and do the same with Thomas, but Alito just slips in somehow. I guess it's a similar flipside to RBG and Breyer. Both were amazing, but Breyer is so under the radar. Great, but quiet.

Now Amy on the other hand, conservatives will idolize her.

[malaise]

10. Not one of them has criticized this woman with no principles

or the party with no principles led by the rotting turtle.

[bullwinkle428]

12. I keep saying the same thing about the entire LP crew - let's see what

they start saying and doing on November 4th.

[tormadjax]

4. He's a useful creep right now for another week n/t

[OnDoutside]

6. Lol, seek help !

[melman]

8. Did you see the news this week?

You know, the news about Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation, and how there's now a 6-3 right wing majority?


Yeah, well, a lot of people think that's really bad and not at all lolworthy. Your view may differ. I don't know.


And then here's this Steve Schmidt guy acting like he's proud of helping install two of those six right wing justices.


I, and a lot of other people, think that's pretty fucked up. Your view apparently differs.

[OnDoutside]

15. Then start a thread about Amy Coney Barrett, instead of your bte noire, TLP. You've taken

what he said out of context, when he was having a fight with Jay fuckin Caruso from the David French school of republican assholes.

[melman]

16. Seems you've missed the point

So I'll spell it out for you. Actually it's a two-parter. Here goes..


You can't get to six if you don't have the five before them. Schmidt helped get two of those five confirmed. See how that works?

Now here comes the main point. Are you ready for it? Okay. Here goes...


The cute billboards this guy makes don't mean shit compared to the real lasting harm he's done to this country. That he brags about!


ps. nothing was taken out of context. The full exchange is shown right in the OP.


pps. the fact that his go-to in an argument with this right-winger is to puff up his chest about his own right-wing bona fides is supposed to be a good thing? That "context" is supposed to work in his favor? LOL

[OnDoutside]

18. This is where the intensity of your dislike doesn't do you any good.

Yes you have completely missed the context, in an argument between two people formerly from the same side, where one, in a typically Trump fashion called Schmidt a two time loser, but you pick what you want out of it.

Yes he is proud of the work he did, but he could have stayed within the Republican Party, packing away plenty of cash from all that campaign money, but he deserves credit for saying no, this is wrong, being vilified by the right for doing so.

I'm happy to take David Plouffe and James Carville's opinion of Schmidt, and Stuart Stevens, over your opinion. They're closer to the center of what's what than any of us will ever be.

https://www.stitcher.com/s?eid=78864442&refid=asa

Your hate for TLP is such that you can't see the bigger picture, so be it, but I'll call it when I see it.

[melman]

19. "he is proud of the work he did"

He shouldn't be.


Listen, maybe I'd feel differently if I had the luxury of watching this play out from another country.


But I don't. This is real for me and not just internet lols and games.

[OnDoutside]

21. And sometimes distance gives perspective. That said, my brother

lives in Florida and got screwed over by the state's workers comp laws, thanks to Jeb Bush, and that matters to me. There will come a point where Schmidt and others from TLP will join an unlikely reformed Republican Party, get involved in a 3rd party conservative party, or as I suspect build an organisation to hit what remains of the Trumpist GOP and the far left coalition ie the extremes of the US political spectrum.

[melman]

26. Okay

Perspective is one thing but the issue here is the US Supreme Court.


Citizens of other countries are not personally affected. This is not an attack. It's just the plain truth.

[OnDoutside]

30. Not so, what happens in the US SC can affect the rest of us in the West too.

The US is the world leader for us, and for example if the SC blocks efforts at climate change, it affects efforts elsewhere.

[George II]

20. A simple parable:

A man on a cruise leans over the railing and falls into the ocean.

Steve Schmidt jumps in the water and tries to save the man. He refuses the help, "NO! You're responsible for Samuel Alito."

[OnDoutside]

22. Lol !

[melman]

28. A cruise?

In 2020? lol way to keep up on the news.



plus, I'd never do a cruise anyway even if that was still a thing. That's shit's for tacky assholes. Sort of like horse racing.

[George II]

33. I have a couple of friends who went on cruises in 2020, and they're far from "tacky assholes".

[aidbo]

32. Lol

Yes he is proud of the work he did, but he could have stayed within the Republican Party, packing away plenty of cash from all that campaign money, but he deserves credit for saying no, this is wrong, being vilified by the right for doing so.

He and the rest of TLP just jumped onto a different gravy train of making ads for liberals. Those slick ads they’re making are almost certainly not changing the minds of any trump voter but they sure do inspire a bunch of well meaning liberals to give money. Certainly raking it in.

[OnDoutside]

37. Hindsight is everything. Go back a year.

[George II]

7. You posted the same tweet from Schmidt ten times.

[melman]

11. I posted the original tweet and nine replies

and that's how twitter works. As you know.


I could have screen-shotted them of course, but then you'd be complaining about that. As you also know.

[LanternWaste]

34. Ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in your having said that.

"but then you'd be complaining about that. As you also know..."

[melman]

35. 30 says you can't explain this alleged irony

[BannonsLiver]

14. Reminds me of a song

[melman]

36. That's a good song

I personally prefer the original version.

[Renew Deal]

9. I agree about Alito

It's nothing to brag about, but Schmidt didn't choose him.

[andym]

17. All the more impressive that he is supporting Democrats and Biden

He is obviously putting country above party and politics. He is a patriot.

[brooklynite]

23. This guy is helping to defeat Trump in this election.

[melman]

25. Is he really?

Show me some proof.


Yeah, I know the videos. I've seen the videos. I mean show me some proof of their effectiveness.

[brooklynite]

27. If you don't think they're having an effect on Trump, I can't convince you.

Of course, if DNC thought they were a scam or a useless drain on contributions, they'd say something, but what do they know?

[melman]

29. "an effect on Trump"

That's some clever goalpost-shifting but I'll still have to put it down as a no. You can't show they've moved the needle at all.

[brooklynite]

31. Let me talk you through it....

LINCOLN PROJECT runs an ad that Trump sees.

The ad gets under Trump's skin.

Trump rants about it.

Voters who are tired of Trump get more tired of his rants and are more likely to vote against him.

Now, IN ADDITION, they are producing and airing ads against all the vulnerable Republican Senate candidates in their respective States.

But, feel free to stick with political purity. I'll take any assistance that's offered.

[George II]

38. At this late date there is a surprising number of undecided voters (I can't believe it)....

So anything that helps convince them to vote for Biden or NOT for trump is good for us. Anyone on the edge of going to Biden and fed up with trump is their target.

And as you point out, they're running ads against the likes of Graham, Ernst, Collins, and Gardner and ads supporting Al Gross, Steve Bullock, and even Mike Espy in Mississippi.

[NurseJackie]

44. That's good enough for me. Schmidt is a PATRIOT!!

[melman]

41. Oh

So what you're saying here is not only can't you show they've moved the needle...


...but also that the ads aren't even actually meant to persuade at voters at all.


Wow.

[brooklynite]

52. I also can't tell you if Bloomberg's hundreds of milllions...

...or if the pro-Biden SuperPACs have “moved the needle. So, no point trying I guess.

[NorthOf270]

24. Alito is the worst on the court

People do not seem to get it. He is the new Scalia. An ignorant bully and the new compass of this court.

[George II]

39. So Democrats refusing help from The Lincoln Project will result in the retirement of Samuel Alito?

[NorthOf270]

47. I'm sorry I criticized Sam Alito and apparently offended you.

I'll do better in the future.

[George II]

48. Wrong. No need to do better though.

[NurseJackie]

40. Oh, honey...

... the only thing I care about in 2020 is defeating Trump.

[melman]

42. Well then Steve Schmidt is not your guy

Because this 6-3 rightwing majority he helped bring about could very well end up deciding the election in Trump's favor.

[NurseJackie]

43. LOL! I love what he's doing. I trust him. He's a patriot.

Well then Steve Schmidt is not your guy

LOL! I love what he's doing. I trust him. He's a patriot.

[George II]

46. The other night I sent them a small contribution. For all they've done what will benefit me....

....in the future, I figured I owed them a few bucks.

[Gothmog]

45. The members of the Lincoln Project have burned their bridges with the GOP

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Trumpism will still be alive even if trump is defeated in 2020. The members of the lincoln project know that they can not come home again https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-07-29/what-will-become-of-anti-trump-republicans

What they say motivates them is both fear of a second term for Donald Trump and, especially for some of the campaign professionals involved, a sense of responsibility for what the Republican Party has become. It’s possible that there’s really nothing more to it than that. Surely the policy advocates in the group will continue to push for choices they favor regardless of who is in office, but for the political operatives, this might be the end of the line — they may be burning bridges with one party without building any connection to the other.

It’s possible that some of them will eventually gravitate toward the Democrats. But it’s unlikely that they’ll exert much influence over them. Party actors fight hard for power within the organization, and while it’s true that parties are permeable and new people enter all the time and can change policy positions and priorities, there’s very little appetite among Democrats for this particular group of outsiders to wield significant influence.

My sense is that the group would be happiest with some sort of reformed Republican Party, but that they don’t quite know how to get there from here. The obvious problem is that the more elections Republicans lose, the more the remnant in office will tend to be from the safest districts, which usually produce the most extreme politicians. And if, on the other hand, Republicans win this year or in 2022, they’ll likely conclude that there isn’t actually a problem to be solved. They may reach that conclusion even if they lose several consecutive elections as long as the conservative marketplace is still profitable.

So my guess is that ultimately the Lincoln Project will be a curiosity — a marker of the deep dysfunction of the Republican Party, but not a group able to do much about it or to find a home elsewhere. Perhaps I’m wrong and they’ll be able to find a way out of the trap that Republicans have gotten into. I certainly hope so: Democracy in the U.S. requires two reasonably healthy political parties, both firmly committed to the rule of law, full citizenship for all and other important principles.

The members of the Lincoln Project has burned bridges. If trump loses then the remants of the GOP will be in safe gerrymandered seats and trump's base will be still be out there. The GOP will not longer be home to these members. trump may escape jail and I suspect that trump may end up with trump TV which will be attaking the members of the Lincoln group. The members of the Lincoln Project will not running against Democrats in 2024 becauase they wil have no home in what is left of the GOP.

Ses this clip from Sixty Minutes

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[Spazito]

50. LOL, Steve Schmidt lives rent free in your head the way...

President Obama does in trump's.

[Greybnk48]

51. I appreciate everything Steve Schmidt has done

In the recent past and now. Like he and the others in TLP have said, they are like explorers who burned their ships one evening they landed. They aren’t going back. I also really like him And a couple of the others like John H., and Rick Wilson. I hope they keep on this path.