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brooklynite

(94,713 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 07:57 PM Oct 2020

To EVERYONE who ho has posted a "the SC is going to steal the election" thread today...

If you believe a 6-3 conservative Court is going to run roughshod over the States and the Constitution, explain why a 5-4 onsetvative Court didn’t feel the moose red to di the same thing before yesterday.

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To EVERYONE who ho has posted a "the SC is going to steal the election" thread today... (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
"the moose red to di" TwilightZone Oct 2020 #1
Vas not Moose! Vas Squirrel!! hatrack Oct 2020 #9
Qanon code?? honest.abe Oct 2020 #13
Нет! Нет товарищ! hatrack Oct 2020 #17
Yeah, I don't know about the moose thing n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2020 #2
I think I have deciphered it; A HERETIC I AM Oct 2020 #3
Thread winner right there MissB Oct 2020 #8
I'm dying! soothsayer Oct 2020 #11
haha TwilightZone Oct 2020 #25
... Celerity Oct 2020 #30
WHAT????? USALiberal Oct 2020 #4
A. You kinda called us ho's MissB Oct 2020 #5
hahahahaha OneGrassRoot Oct 2020 #6
Now you're talk'n my language, comrade. WheelWalker Oct 2020 #7
I think the thought process is that it wasn't fully 5-4 AleksS Oct 2020 #10
Fucking hell... OneGrassRoot Oct 2020 #12
This. regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #15
You forgot the moose reference. A HERETIC I AM Oct 2020 #26
Perfect melman Oct 2020 #21
Salon speak? (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2020 #14
I'm feeling the moose red to di tonight kurtcagle Oct 2020 #16
I agree 80% CincyDem Oct 2020 #24
Oh, don't get me wrong kurtcagle Oct 2020 #27
That's interesting. CincyDem Oct 2020 #31
Well they they probably did feel the moose red melman Oct 2020 #18
The moose was not red by ron joberts Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #19
I must admit I'm hard pressed to explain that. NT enough Oct 2020 #20
"None for me thanks, I'm drivin'!" /Daffy crickets Oct 2020 #22
Sometimes Roberts would find his way thru the fog of the repug... brush Oct 2020 #23
Could someone please translate? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2020 #28
Moose threatens to trample homeowner but you should ignore because squirrel did not. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2020 #29

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
1. "the moose red to di"
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 07:59 PM
Oct 2020

The squirrel has left the building. Repeat, the squirrel has left the building.

Gotta love auto-correct.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
10. I think the thought process is that it wasn't fully 5-4
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:10 PM
Oct 2020

Roberts hadn't signed his name in blood to the Trump cause like Kav, Gorsuch, Thomas, Barrett, and Alito. Now, Roberts can defect and he can't stop the other 5 from moosing red to di.

Roberts SEEMED to care about something beyond partisan ideology. Whether it was his legacy, actual human compassion, actual patriotism, or whatever, it separated him from the actual ideologues on the court. It was 5-4 conservative, but only 4 were ideologues. Now it's 5-4 in favor of ideologues who don't give an f about anything beyond moosing red to di, who'll sell out their mothers--not to mention their country--just for a chance to moose even the tiniest red to di, and that's the difference.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
12. Fucking hell...
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:12 PM
Oct 2020

I read it several times because you did it so well that I thought "moosing red to di" really meant something and I was clueless.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
15. This.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:14 PM
Oct 2020

As long as Roberts was the swing vote, we had hope reason might prevail. The extremists now make him irrelevant.

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
16. I'm feeling the moose red to di tonight
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:14 PM
Oct 2020

Sorry

I personally think that McConnell made several strategic blunders here:

1. He motivated Democrats and socially moderate independents (and even Republicans, what few remain) to come out in numbers we've probably not seen in years.
2. He took the single argument for evangelicals voting for Trump off the table a week before the election. They have someone who will overturn Roe v Wade on the bench, and that means those same evangelicals will now look at the character of Trump instead of seeing him simply as a means to an end, which won't end well for him.
3. He's assured that a Democratic Senate will defang the filibuster, making it a lot harder for the GOP to gain much leverage.
4. He's turned two generations of young women away from the GOP permanently.
5. Roberts does not want another Bush vs. Gore. If it comes down to that, he will simply refuse to take the case - and I do not believe he will let Kavenaugh's shoddy reasoning stand as jurisprudence.

CincyDem

(6,385 posts)
24. I agree 80%
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:28 PM
Oct 2020

Roberts doesn’t decide what cases SCOTUS take up. It take 4 justices to grant cert...morning take the case. And Roberts is still just one vote.

To me the single biggest issue is that on today’s court, the “fifth justice”, the so called swing vote because she or he is the ideological center of the court...the fifth justice is Alito. The common sense of the court test with him.

Think about that for insanity.

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
27. Oh, don't get me wrong
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:56 AM
Oct 2020

I think what's happening with the supreme court is horrible, but I'm not so sure that the fifth justice IS Alito. I'm more inclined to believe it's Kavenaugh. He's conservative, but he's also been taken under the wing of Roberts, and while his judgments are not great, I don't think he's going to end up being as conservative as either Alito or Thomas.

As to your point, yes, you need four justices for certiorari, but Roberts has a lot of influence there.

CincyDem

(6,385 posts)
31. That's interesting.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:02 PM
Oct 2020

I guess the idea of Alito being the center is based on an assessment of each judge’s decisions. As we get weaker resumes like Kav and Barrett that’s going to be more of a crapshoot.

I can see the “under Roberts’ wing” thing with Kav. He just seems, from a distance, to be one of those prep school suck ups to the boss that used to drive me crazy at the office.

Maybe it’s like the Sith in Star Wars...there must always be two, but only two. Now it’s Roberts n Kav.

Lol.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
18. Well they they probably did feel the moose red
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:18 PM
Oct 2020

but it's even more likely now because there's one more of them.


And because Roberts could conceivably vote other way, but the five certainly would not. As you undoubtedly know.

brush

(53,840 posts)
23. Sometimes Roberts would find his way thru the fog of the repug...
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:24 PM
Oct 2020

echo chamber and side with the four justices whose collective judgments are not always clouded by racism, sexism and all the other "isms" usually wallowed in by the four extreme right winger justices.

Ocassionaly that would happen, now even if it does it won't matter because the wingers will still revel in their extreme wallowings.

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