Why isn't this guy in JAIL??!!??

[Archae]

He should be!

Wisconsin Dells man arrested on 12th drunken driving charge

https://www.wbay.com/2020/10/28/wisconsin-dells-man-arrested-on-12th-drunken-driving-charge/

[tulipsandroses]

1. Interlock device and substance abuse treatment would probably be more effective

than jail. The interlock device would prevent him from driving intoxicated. A treatment program could help get a handle on his addiction.

[Archae]

2. I had a distant cousin who had a similar problem...

Really a drinker, multiple DUI's.

He'd get tossed into jail after a new arrest for DUI, and the FIRST place he'd go after getting out?
You guessed it, straight to a bar.

He finally hit a tree, and died while drunk and driving.

We all were glad he didn't kill anyone else.

I figure a guy that has 10 DUI's, much less more, is a hopeless case.

Nobody cares if the guy drives while drunk or not, they just hope he doesn't hurt or kill himself or someone else.

And those interlock gizmos don't work.
Guy gets his non-drinking buddy to blow into it.
Then the drunk starts his/her car.

[tulipsandroses]

3. I'm sorry for your loss. Addiction is hard. There is good evidence that interlock devices are

effective at reducing DUIs. Its one tool in the toolbox. It should not be the only tool. There has to be treatment in conjunction with using the device.


I work in mental health/substance abuse. I work in an outpatient clinic as well as see people in jail. I never see anyone as a hopeless case. I think if given the right tools, people can recover. Unfortunately, mental health is something we don't spend money on in this country and addiction falls under the umbrella of mental health. If someone has been addicted for a long time, it takes a while for their brain to recover. They need inpatient detox then followed by intensive rehab followed by sober living housing/half way housing. There are medications, that reduce cravings to assist in that journey of sobriety. For quite a number of addicts, they have underlying mental health issues and self medicate. Certainly if they break the law, they should pay for their crime. However, the way we do things, it just doesn't work. Hence the number of people I see when I do my jail visits that are there on VOP. - Violation of probation - due to another DUI or failed drug test or overdose.

[Archae]

4. If you are wondering if I have a more personal beef here...

Yes, I do.
Three of my family were injured in a car crash when they were T-boned by a drunken lawyer.

Took YEARS to get the settlements from the guy, and actually getting him into jail.

Guy tried every trick in the book, including trying to make the crash look like my relatives were to blame, not him.
And this was his 6th DUI.

So after multiple DUI's, I figure 5 is the limit, I have zero sympathy for them.

[tulipsandroses]

5. What happened to your family was awful.

This person should have been court ordered to treatment, if he did not want to go voluntarily, way before he got to hurting your family. The system failed.

[pansypoo53219]

6. liquor gets far to much sway in WI.

i say execute after 3.

[Archae]

7. As is, execution is out of the question.

And finally a first offense is NOT treated just like any other traffic offense.

Just saw a guy listed in one of our local free newspapers, second offense, 120 days in jail.

Good.