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crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:08 PM Nov 2020

Putin rejects Trump's accusations against Biden

Did anyone see this? I apologize if already posted but I never saw any news about this (happened last Sunday). Not that I care what Putin thinks but Trump surely does. Sounds like Putin sees the writing on the wall and believes Trump will lose. For once in my life I hope Putin is right.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-putin-idUSKBN27A0TA

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Putin rejects Trump's accusations against Biden (Original Post) crimycarny Nov 2020 OP
GOP are traitors, the fact that any real American would care or put stock in anything Eliot Rosewater Nov 2020 #1
Are you speaking to me? crimycarny Nov 2020 #9
No. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2020 #10
Yes...the GOP has definitely enabled Putin's interference crimycarny Nov 2020 #18
Hadnt thought of that, makes sense. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2020 #19
He's apparently betting on Biden mzmolly Nov 2020 #2
Trump has always been an expendable tool kurtcagle Nov 2020 #3
Don't get the cart ahead of the Horse. Wellstone ruled Nov 2020 #4
No one is getting the cart ahead of the horse crimycarny Nov 2020 #6
Agree! Putin also said maybe could work out an arms deal with Biden and Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #11
Please Stop MizLibby Nov 2020 #8
Don't trust putin or putin's puppet. Could just be a distraction from criminal activity related AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2020 #5
He could be trying to send signal to "undecideds" that he was never colluding with Trump MaryMagdaline Nov 2020 #7
Or, as the OP said, he could be sending a message to Biden Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #12
Yep. He knows Biden's a forgiving type guy. Not this time I hope. MaryMagdaline Nov 2020 #14
That's what I was thinking. He's trump's puppeteer. AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2020 #13
Exactly crimycarny Nov 2020 #15
I love your explanation. It makes a lot of sense. MaryMagdaline Nov 2020 #16
Putin is a lot of things, but the main thing he is is pragmatic. elevator Nov 2020 #17

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. GOP are traitors, the fact that any real American would care or put stock in anything
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:11 PM
Nov 2020

this fascist dictator, killer would say...

fucking sigh

But because of the GOP now siding with Russia over America, it is a thing...

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
9. Are you speaking to me?
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:44 PM
Nov 2020

I care what Putin says because I believe strongly he is interfering in our election and will continue to do so.

I posted this article not because I give a rat’s ass what Putin thinks or doesn’t think about Hunter Biden. I don’t believe a word that comes out of Putin’s mouth. But I do believe Putin has motives in everything he does and my point of posting the article is it seems that Putin realizes he might be betting on the wrong horse. Perhaps he realizes that no amount of disinformation or even hacking of our computers is going to be able to sway the election this time around. So he’s basically hedging his bets. That’s my take anyway.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
10. No.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:45 PM
Nov 2020

That wasn’t my point, sorry if I left that impression

Of course we have to be aware of and worry about what this fascist murderous traitor Putin does and says, the point is Republican party works side-by-side with him and that’s the only reason he’s such a big part of our election process.

Putin would try to interfere regardless, but with the direct help of the republican party it’s an even bigger problem obviously

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
18. Yes...the GOP has definitely enabled Putin's interference
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

More likely Putin is merely trying to distance himself from the fact that the Hunter Biden info was all a part of a Russian disinformation campaign. If he publicly states he sees no criminal activity in Hunter Biden’s actions then how could anyone say he is behind those accusations in the first place?

The more I think about it that’s the more likely scenario. His disinformation campaign against Hunter Biden was a dud so now he is doing damage control.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
19. Hadnt thought of that, makes sense.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 04:41 PM
Nov 2020

Imagine the problems we could solve if the entire nation didnt have to daily deal with the dumbest most corrupt human alive.

kurtcagle

(1,603 posts)
3. Trump has always been an expendable tool
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:19 PM
Nov 2020

and Putin has realized that the tool has now reached the end of its usable lifespan. May be yet one more reason why Trump is in full-blown panic mode.

Care for a Big Mac with polonium sauce, Mr. President?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Don't get the cart ahead of the Horse.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:29 PM
Nov 2020

Russian Disinformation is playing out in real time. Orwell explained "double speak" and the Ministry of Truth. They are not,the GRU,going to close the book on their Asset,not yet anyway. Still have eight days in order to accomplish their goals. Understanding the Greedy Mind of Trump,money will buy a certain amount of protection for himself for a certain amount of time.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
6. No one is getting the cart ahead of the horse
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:35 PM
Nov 2020

Merely posting an article asking if anyone had seen it.

Tiresome that we can’t seem to post ANYTHING without being told “this isn’t over yet!” “Vote like we’re behind!” “Don’t take anything for granted”.

Thekaspervote

(32,770 posts)
11. Agree! Putin also said maybe could work out an arms deal with Biden and
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:46 PM
Nov 2020

He thought maybe it was time for America and Russia to stop meddling in each other’s elections.

There’s always the naysayers. Thx for looking at the positive side

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,246 posts)
5. Don't trust putin or putin's puppet. Could just be a distraction from criminal activity related
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:33 PM
Nov 2020

to the election.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
7. He could be trying to send signal to "undecideds" that he was never colluding with Trump
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:36 PM
Nov 2020

So they can say “see there, Putin is not on Trump’s side and it’s totally ok that I vote for him.” Putin never tells the truth except when it’s useful to his otherwise crooked plans.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
15. Exactly
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:55 PM
Nov 2020

Putin only says what is useful to him. I don’t think he would trust Americans to be smart enough to take away from his statement that it’s ok to vote for Trump since Putin isn’t supporting (publicly) Trump’s main accusation against Biden. Since Trump himself has praised Putin at the same time trying to make Hunter Biden be a “thing”, it comes off as Trump looking the fool. So I don’t see how independents, or anyone, would read that statement and think “Putin thinks Trump’s crusade against Hunter Biden is idiotic too. Wow, I guess I’ll vote for Trump now!”

That’s just my take.

Putin has his own mess on his hands with COVID and civil unrest. He can’t afford to bet on a losing horse so has shifted his stance merely out of political expediency.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
16. I love your explanation. It makes a lot of sense.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:59 PM
Nov 2020

Making Trump look like a fool is a good thing.
Also, in my analysis I took it for granted that the Trump voter was pro-American. I forgot how they worship Putin. Putin turning against trump may be too humiliating for Trumpsters. Thanks again for good thinking

 

elevator

(415 posts)
17. Putin is a lot of things, but the main thing he is is pragmatic.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

He figures Trump is going to lose so he is hedging his bet a bit. If Trump should somehow win, he will still be in Putin's backpocket. Putin does things, like Trump, in his best interest. But, he also has strong feelings for Russia and her future. Unlike Trump and the US.

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