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Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:09 PM Nov 2020

People seem to totally understand Trump's schtick at this point

I remember back in 2015 and 2016 during his first major presidential run, Trump could dominate the media narrative just by throwing out some outrageous lie or proposal. I recall when Trump said to ban all Muslims from the country that there was wall to wall coverage for like 2 days in the media about that issue. Steve Bannon said the entire goal of shit like that was to distract from scandals, obviously, but to also legitimize the fringe right wing bullshit. With the Muslim ban, for example, the goal (which likely worked to some extent) was to have people at least thinking "maybe that is one common proposal to deal with terrorism".

While we have been living through this shit day in and day out for 5 years now, including Trump's primary run in 2015/2016, it was hard to see more and more people catching on to this strategy. Every time Trump and Co went to that well, it was becoming just a little bit less effective each time. Now if we stop, take a look around at where we are now, I think we see that when Trump talks, most people have zero interest in listening. Trump and MAGA crowd, in the past 24 hours, have said things like "Bill Barr should arrest Biden", "the Democrats are stealing the election from Trump", "there is a late shift in support for Trump among women". All stuff we obviously don't need to unpack because it's all nonsense. But instead what is important is how little reaction shit like this gets anymore. You can still find right wingers screaming these things from the rooftops but the reaction from any media outlets that aren't ultra right wing Russian fronts is little to no reaction. If you look at comments from these stories on sites like twitter, Youtube, and where the stories are being hosted, most aren't along the 2016 lines of "Oh my god, that is ridiculous! Trump is the one trying to steal the election. Here are 10 articles to prove my point. We need to keep talking about this so people know how out of line it is!" and more like "uh huh", "I can't wait until this election is over", and "what is this moron rambling about now?".

Unlike 4 years ago, people know Trump is a liar and whatever crazy things he is saying today are best to be ignored. That is why in 2020, unlike 2016, none of Trump's insanity, his attacks, anything from his old bag of tricks have not moved the needle at all. In retrospect, his racist "law and order" nonsense from the summer was never going to resonate with voters because most had long since stopped listening. That is why his dismissive attitude towards the pandemic haven't caused most people to say "maybe the coronavirus isn't a big deal?", instead they say "Trump is an idiot, we are clearly on our own". That is why whatever "October Surprise" they tried cooking up didn't work. It is because no one believes them when they make wild claims and no one cares what they are saying. All of the things we worried about, that nonsense like Tara Reid, Hunter Biden, dementia, "just wait until Trump crushes Biden at the debates", "Biden is hiding in his basement!", and the million other things they tried this year failed to gain traction. Besides his most fanatical and die hard supporters, most people stopped listening to Trump years ago. Most people don't take him seriously and a majority of voters decided long ago that they were never going to vote for Trump under any circumstances.

People figured out Trump's schtick and they are done engaging with him.

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People seem to totally understand Trump's schtick at this point (Original Post) Dr. Jack Nov 2020 OP
Eroding public trust does that to you. Claustrum Nov 2020 #1
Absolutely on spot. trump complained that the hunter biden 'story' never got any traction, or SWBTATTReg Nov 2020 #2
Anyone still with Trump is either $, related, and/or a fool, any other options? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #3
And it's not a very big shtick Blue Owl Nov 2020 #4

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
1. Eroding public trust does that to you.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:13 PM
Nov 2020

When you start out, you still have some trust but that trust is gone little by little as he lied to everyone year after year. I think COVID might have been what broke through for a lot of them. Once you realize his lies and is a con, it's hard to get tricked again.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
2. Absolutely on spot. trump complained that the hunter biden 'story' never got any traction, or
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:13 PM
Nov 2020

that no one listened to his lawyer Ghoul touts his nefarious laptop (formerly of Hunter Biden's supposedly), etc.

No one is listening anymore. They've cried 'WOLF' far too many times.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
3. Anyone still with Trump is either $, related, and/or a fool, any other options?
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:20 PM
Nov 2020

If going by actual votes, this should be a landslide, and a pretty embarrassing one, but alas Citizen's United, Fakebook, and Twatter!

Along with eager to bend over congressional trolls, we have a perfect storm with help from whomever and so much malarkey it's going to be one hell of a long investigation!

I'd remind voters that he was IMPEACHED!










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