Prepping the "Voter Purge" battlefield - Fox News

[underpants]

Voter registration in the Buckeye State is down by 490,000 people from four years ago. Of that reduction, 44 percent is in Cleveland and surrounding Cuyahoga County, where Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one.

Ohio is not alone. An August study by the left-leaning think tank Third Way showed that the Democratic voter registration decline in eight key swing states outnumbered the Republican decline by a 10-to-one ratio. In Florida, Democratic registration is down 4.9 percent, in Iowa down 9.5 percent. And in New Hampshire, it's down down 19.7 percent.


The Third Way study, which was conducted in August, indicates the Democrats' drop in registered voters coincides with a gain in independent voters.


Others question the bailout's effect on swaying the minds of independent voters. In the words of Diggles, independents are "not a stable voting block at all."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/drop-in-ohio-voter-registration-especially-in-dem-strongholds-mirrors/#ixzz280Pq7QoD

[truedelphi]

1. So let's see - first I'm confused -

Maybe I can come back and read it later.

As the above OP reads, I remain confused. Is the purge the problem or people deciding to become independents? There is a big difference between the two.

But in either case, the Dems have only themselves to blame. Voting activists have been trying to get Dem leaders concerned about purges, and the Dem leadership is not interested.

Once involved citizens realize their Blue Dog Congress person is just as evil as a Republican would be, they are inclined to think about ditching the Party. As more and more people become Progressives - well, the Dems could have kept these voters if they hadn't let Rahm Emanuel drive them all out of the party, circa 2005 to 2008. And Di Fi was driving progressives from the party way back at the end of the Nineties.

[CoffeeCat]

3. I don't have any good news...but here is the reality...

I'm in Iowa. An article came out today, revealing that Iowa has had 86,000 people removed from the voter rolls in the past six months. The OP states that 10 percent of registered Iowa voters have been purged from the rolls. That is true.

I think this article is saying that these are numbers of people WHO ARE GONE FROM THE ROLLS. This is what has happened in Iowa.

Those people are GONE!! Off the rolls! This is not about someone switching parties. This is about people evaporating from the rolls.

I have been very upset about this, since reading the Iowa article.

It's equally disconcerting to hear this now about Ohio.

Obama is leading Romney in Iowa by 4 percent. If 10 percent were purged, you can damn well bet they purged areas that had high percentages of Democratic voters.

Seriously, I am not overdramatizing. The Republicans could win this way. If they manage to drop ten percent off the rolls--and the majority of those dropped are Dems--they've got a 6-8 point advantage in every state that they do this.

I think I'm going to throw up.

[truedelphi]

7. As a semi-retired voting activist -

I can tell you why I am no longer emotionally over-wrought about this -

The Dem leadership doesn't care. Voting activists have been trying to tell the people that matter, like Senator Di Feinstein, about this for almost a decade. Andy Stephenson tried to get her and others to listen way back in Autumn 2004.

We had a House and Senate majority starting in January 2007. Did Dem leadership address this important issue, making legislation that would make it difficult to set up these purges? No, and you know what issue they addressed immediately after getting their majority? Socking increased postal rates on small businesses while exempting the large players like Time-Warner.

There were some people who listened, like Calif. House of Rep., the Honorable Lynn Woolsey. And Dennis Kucinich. But the people at the very top of both parties don't care. Look at how the Republican party just threw away the voters who had supported Ron Paul - they would rather lose than have a shot, if winning means letting the people get heard.

Anyway I do sympathize with how you feel. I have felt the same way. But after a while, you burn out and say, "This country is totally screwn, and the whole political thing, except on the very local level, is kabuki. Over and over, it's mere kabuki."

And of course, it's hard to get what you want and need on the local level when the purging is going on. I have no solution. Since the Big Party Leaders are rigging it, us "little people" trying to change things from within the Two Party system find ourselves engaged in a Sisyphusian struggle (For those who weren't taught Greek mythology, he's the guy who pushed a huge rock up a hill, only to have it tumble back down. He does this for eternity!) And it will be equally hard to change it from without via third parties! All I am doing at this point is hoping that we reach that level of reality where there is the momentum to do it. Sort of like when during the McCarthy era, people started saying, "Have you no shame!" to McCarthy's face. When people can say that to our Dem "Leaders" then it will matter.

Oh and one other thing - you can catch a republican RED HANDED committing a voter-related felony in your district - and you cannot have the District Attorney help you. It has to go through the FBI. They will ignore you.

[CoffeeCat]

9. Wow, truedelphi...

Thank you for sharing your experiences and your insights with everyone. I thank you for your efforts on helping our elections be free and fair. You did everything you possibly could, and I'm sorry that our politicians all appear to be corrupt as the day is long.

You are still a trailblazer. You make people aware of this reality. Your story demonstrates exactly the situation in which we find ourselves. I see these articles about voter purge in my state and I wonder what the hell is going on. Can something be done? Do the right people know about this?

You tell us that they do know, and they don't care.

Your post just reinforces what I have felt for so long--that our system is so broken and so corrupt--that it is just a facade. Behind closed doors is where our government happens, between sold-outs on both sides of the political aisle and their psychopathic friends in the corporate world.

Why would our politicians really care about vote fraud and elections, when they all know it is a rigged game, right? Our elections are like a play. The scenery and the props come out, and for a short time we are given a bit of theater. This really is the only explanation for Democrats not caring about this obvious voter fraud.

You just wonder what their end game is. Thanks again for sharing. It's certainly not good news, but you validate what many of us have known for a while--that it's all just rigged and any semblence of democracy is just theater.

[truedelphi]

8. Oh and one more bit of info as to how the system is

Deliberately rigged -

Both Maxine Waters and Conyers (Both in the House) were both caught up in scandals once the Dem Majority came into play. They had to put the effort into saving their necks, so they couldn't bring about the needed legislation to make sure voting purges don't happen.

Here are two very decent and very honest politicians, and they were the ones slammed with lawsuits about their malfeasance.

[shraby]

2. Is it possible people changed to independent to avoid being purged as a Democrat?

[jackbenimble]

4. I hope everyone knows their rights

I know in my state if there is any question as to my voter registration I have the right to vote on a provisional ballot that will count once any questions are cleared up.

[PSPS]

5. Sadly, provisional ballots are almost never counted.

[HooptieWagon]

6. Thats Fox bullshit.

Dem registrations in FL are up 250K, approx fives more than Rep. Dems now outnumber Rs by almost 450K, could be 500K by Nov. Fox's "facts" are fouled by the feces of the assholes they're pulled from.

[CoffeeCat]

10. This is what my husband said too....

He said exactly this, "Honey, this is Karl Rove bullshit. He's got to rally the troops with something. Anything. They're down in every damn poll. This election is all ready won and they know it. Yes, the Republicans cheat. They always will and we know this. They're not going to win. You need to go to 538.com and stay in the reality-based community and stop reading Fox News."


My hubby is pretty wise!

Doesn't mean Repubs aren't corrupt, or that they're not cheating--but we are so far ahead in the swing states, it's really over, barring any big event.