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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 02:52 PM Oct 2012

Kentucky restaurant shut down after road kill found in kitchen

A Chinese restaurant in Kentucky has reportedly been forced to shut its doors after allegedly serving up roadkill.

WKYT.com reports that the Red Flower Chinese Restaurant in Williamsburg was shuttered on Thursday after a customer called the health department when she saw a dead deer being wheeled into the kitchen.

"Two of the workers came in wheeling a garbage can and they had a box sitting on top of it," Kate Hopkins told the website. "And hanging out of the garbage can, they were trying to be real quick with it. So that nobody could see it. But there was like a tail, and a foot and leg. Sticking out of the garbage can and they wheeled it straight back into the kitchen."

Paul Lawson, Whitley County's environmental health inspector, said the owner's son admitted to pick up the dead animal from the side of I-75 North in Williamsburg. The restaurant was immediately shut down.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19682381/kentucky-restaurant-shut-down-after-road-kill-found-in-kitchen#ixzz284i1Tqvt

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Kentucky restaurant shut down after road kill found in kitchen (Original Post) cali Oct 2012 OP
..... woolldog Oct 2012 #1
What do they have against General Tso's venison? pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #2
General Tso gonna need a BAMBULANCE CrazyOrangeCat Oct 2012 #5
New name bongbong Oct 2012 #10
Just like all of General Tso's dishes pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #12
One of the shacks in the woods up here serves a Left Fender Burger. Brickbat Oct 2012 #3
Tonight's Special: Venison Chili! MineralMan Oct 2012 #4
It's delicious if prepared correctly... pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #9
LMAO! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #35
So this is the real road kill cafe newfie11 Oct 2012 #6
Suspicions confirmed tularetom Oct 2012 #7
There was a chinese restaurant in Eureka, CA that got busted PufPuf23 Oct 2012 #50
Bob's Big Boy was busted several decades ago for using horsemeat in its burgers. nt pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #54
This is one reason I severely curtailed my eating out... KansDem Oct 2012 #8
All kitchens are required to have a hand-washing station, which may not be visible to customers... antigone382 Oct 2012 #37
Waste not, librarylu Oct 2012 #11
Seriously? cali Oct 2012 #14
people who eat dead animals are very picky about how those animals were murdered lol nt msongs Oct 2012 #16
Exactly. tama Oct 2012 #20
good question, imo Enrique Oct 2012 #22
Great example of American ingenuity and know-how. Might even be classified as green... freshwest Oct 2012 #62
I thought this was cool in Kentucky.. pipoman Oct 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #32
What does their being Chinese have to do with anything? Sounds a little..wrong.. pipoman Oct 2012 #43
O horseshit! Cirque du So-What Oct 2012 #55
GROSS!!!! skeewee08 Oct 2012 #15
Why? nt tama Oct 2012 #21
Oh deer pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #17
More bang for your buck. n/t HeeBGBz Oct 2012 #24
lol Liberal_in_LA Oct 2012 #18
50 ways to Wok your Dog formercia Oct 2012 #19
How do we know? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2012 #39
We are entirely too out of touch when it comes to the realities... chaska Oct 2012 #23
Precisely DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #25
I've eaten roadkill venison, too. noamnety Oct 2012 #36
Oh, tagines... DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #42
If they hadn't dragged the entire deer into the kitchen... hunter Oct 2012 #44
Yeah, well, there's this little thing called "the law." WinkyDink Oct 2012 #26
Which is always right and applied sensibly for our benefit 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #71
I don't disagree pipoman Oct 2012 #45
Key word is "fresh." Unless you hit it yourself, you don't know. n/t FSogol Oct 2012 #49
does anyone know when it was killed? Coexist Oct 2012 #52
It was killed immediately after this: pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #56
lmao! Coexist Oct 2012 #67
Luncheon Special, no doubt! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2012 #27
Oh, come on. You should know by now. xfundy Oct 2012 #28
Larry, Darryl, and my other brother Darryl CanonRay Oct 2012 #29
Sweet and sour Bambi? nt OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #30
I'd happily eat there. Daemonaquila Oct 2012 #31
Gordon Ramsays Kitchen Nightmares` next stop - Kentucky!! opiate69 Oct 2012 #33
OMG! Honey boo booers. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #34
They were Chinese (not that that stereotype should be exploited, either). It was DEER meat. antigone382 Oct 2012 #38
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #40
"For the family's use" Freddie Oct 2012 #51
Having worked in a lot of kitchens, it isn't that uncommon for people to "borrow" kitchen space... antigone382 Oct 2012 #53
What is "Sysco meat"? pipoman Oct 2012 #65
I've worked with Sysco for years and I'm well aware of that. antigone382 Oct 2012 #69
agreed pipoman Oct 2012 #72
All the rednecks here clean their deer outside XemaSab Oct 2012 #63
I'm guessing they didn't have access to a large freezer and prep space at home 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #70
“I’m not gonna try it. You try it.” ”I’M not gonna try it. YOU try it!” pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #41
If I ordered food in a restaurant, only to find out it was road kill... bunnies Oct 2012 #46
New on menu: "Ka-Pow chicken". lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #47
"Government abuse chicken" is best jsr Oct 2012 #57
Never ask for the special. ck4829 Oct 2012 #48
Possum! Bake Oct 2012 #58
Kung pow squirrel Initech Oct 2012 #59
You've gotta be kidding me! What were they thinking? nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #60
Owner thought it would behoove him to buck up the menu a little pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #61
In old Kentuck' in the afternoon Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #64
Between arsenic laced rice, roadkill/mystery meat ecstatic Oct 2012 #66
Why? Because there wasn't enough roadkill? nt LiberalEsto Oct 2012 #68

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
7. Suspicions confirmed
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:04 PM
Oct 2012

I think the first time I heard this urban legend was in HS over 50 years ago when it was rumored that the Chinese restaurant in our small CA town had been closed down by the health dept. after they found cat and dog skeletons in their garbage cans.

My dad told me it was bullshit, but I always suspected he was blowing smoke. Nice to see after all these years that it actually has happened.

PufPuf23

(8,785 posts)
50. There was a chinese restaurant in Eureka, CA that got busted
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:06 PM
Oct 2012

40 years or so ago for serving black bear as "pork".

There was a relatively high volume trade as gall bladders and other parts of the bear are of high value in China.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
8. This is one reason I severely curtailed my eating out...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:06 PM
Oct 2012

I've gone into the men's room only to see a food handler coming out of the stall and walk directly out the door and into the kitchen area.

I've seen food handlers coming to work and going directly from their cars into the kitchen and start working without washing their hands.

Remember this?



Fast food worker stands in lettuce

And I've heard enough stories from former fast-food workers who had spat in the food that was going to someone they didn't like.

I don't go out much anymore...

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
37. All kitchens are required to have a hand-washing station, which may not be visible to customers...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:06 PM
Oct 2012

It's possible they washed their hands and you just didn't see it. But it's also possible they didn't...

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
20. Exactly.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:29 PM
Oct 2012

Its not food if its not alienated "meat" industrially tortured, pumped with hormones and other poisons.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
22. good question, imo
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:33 PM
Oct 2012

it appears sanitation is the issue


Paul Lawson, Whitley County's environmental health inspector, said the owner's son admitted to pick up the dead animal from the side of I-75 North in Williamsburg. The restaurant was immediately shut down.

"They said they didn't know that they weren't allowed to," Lawson said. "So that makes me concerned. But maybe they could have before. They didn't admit to doing it before."

Owners can reopen the restaurant, Lawson said, if it passes a secondary health inspection proving that they have properly sanitized it.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19682381/kentucky-restaurant-shut-down-after-road-kill-found-in-kitchen#ixzz284s4H7ZL

Response to pipoman (Reply #13)

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)
55. O horseshit!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:19 PM
Oct 2012

You slam an entire region of the country, then try to turn it against me when I point out that it's a Chinese restaurant. All I meant was that Chinese restaurants can be found practically anywhere...and while I'm at it, I'll opine that this sort of thing goes on in establishments of all sorts.

chaska

(6,794 posts)
23. We are entirely too out of touch when it comes to the realities...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:40 PM
Oct 2012

of food.

Fresh roadkill is every bit as edible as any other meat. In this case, it just looks bad. They shouldn't have done it, but it's still a good use for the unfortunate animal.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
25. Precisely
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:53 PM
Oct 2012

I have eaten roadkill venison.

If you know what you are doing, you can open the carcass and tell right away if there have been any toxins released into the flesh.

We were roasting whole goats at a party on our Town Plaza and parents were raising hell with us about their kids' "sensibilities". They were objecting to the fact that their Little Darlings were seeing dead animals and that the dead animals were being cooked.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
42. Oh, tagines...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:31 PM
Oct 2012

We were given a smaller tagine as a gift and absolutely love it.

One day, I ran across a recipe for something big (leg of lamb, pork shoulder, I forget) and went out and procured everything we needed for the meal and invited some friends for dinner the next evening.

When searching for our le Crueset (sp?) Roaster, we realized we had taken it to some party and that we had left it there. But we could not remember whose party.

So we go downtown to our cool local kitchen store, only to discover the replacement wes more than $250.

I said screw that and we went down the sidewalk to a store that specializes in clay-ware, where our smaller tagine came from. I spotted the most beautiful, dramatic tagine ever. 18''wide by 9'high and inscribed with some beautiful images on the top and inside bottom. We took it home - $475, but I was hooked. We are not wealthy prople by any means, but I just had to have the thing.

Took it home and did the total seasoning thing, prepared the meal, and the tagine was too big to fit in our stove.

Cooked it at neighbor's house, bought new stove the next day and had it installed.

That tagine has become, far and away, the most costly cooking element I have ever purchased.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
44. If they hadn't dragged the entire deer into the kitchen...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:36 PM
Oct 2012

...nobody would have noticed.

My great grandma wouldn't even let us clean trout in her kitchen.





 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
45. I don't disagree
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:54 PM
Oct 2012

that maybe the food shouldn't go to waste, as is the case usually. There is a myriad of things you are perfectly legally able to serve in your home which I would be written up or closed up for serving in my restaurant. I have chickens at home...couldn't legally serve the eggs in my restaurant without obtaining USDA certification for myself and my facility. While it makes it a bit difficult for those of us who love to serve locavore menus, ultimately the same rule which keeps me from bringing day-old eggs in, keeps another restaurant from bringing in improperly maintained eggs purchased for 25 cents a dozen.

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
52. does anyone know when it was killed?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:01 PM
Oct 2012

or what it was lying in?

No - thats why there are health codes, and they are generally familiar to restaurant owners.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
38. They were Chinese (not that that stereotype should be exploited, either). It was DEER meat.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

For all we know the kid who picked it up was just planning to store it in the freezer and take it home to butcher later.

I've eaten roadkill deer and lived to talk about it. It's not that big of a deal.

Response to antigone382 (Reply #38)

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
51. "For the family's use"
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:59 PM
Oct 2012

They told the reporters, and they only brought it to the restaurant to prepare the meat for home use.
Riiiiiiight.
I still love Chinese food but may stick to chicken or vegetable dishes from now on.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
53. Having worked in a lot of kitchens, it isn't that uncommon for people to "borrow" kitchen space...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:06 PM
Oct 2012

...for personal food, even if it is against health codes. I'm not saying that is definitely the case here, but it isn't at all outside the realm of possibility. Considering the amount of labor that would go into processing and cooking the meat, it is doubtful to me that they would save that much money...Sysco meat ain't that expensive and it ain't that much cleaner.

I have a friend who owns a Mexican restaurant...I spend a ton of time there and I have been in and out of his kitchen, so I have every confidence in the competence of his staff and their adherence to food safety. Yet the completely baseless rumors that have been spread about his restaurant just because he's a brown-skinned "other" is really frustrating.

It's possible they were going to process the deer meat and sell it (if that grosses you out you may want to check out an industrial pork, chicken, or beef farm). It's also possible that some guy picked up a deer on the way to work and planned to take it home and eat it there.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
65. What is "Sysco meat"?
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:09 AM
Oct 2012

Sysco is the largest food distributor in the US (probably the world)...they sell everything from Kobe or the highest quality organic dry aged beef to pink slime...I can buy at least 30 different grades and brands of rib roast between $6/lb for "no roll" to $40/lb for certified, imported Kobe beef...just sayin'

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
69. I've worked with Sysco for years and I'm well aware of that.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:45 PM
Oct 2012

My point is just that the labor involved in processing a deer for its meat would outweigh the savings to just buy a cheaper grade of meat through Sysco...thus, I don't really see them benefiting that much from passing off venison as something else in their restaurant.

Again, I'm not saying for sure that isn't what they intended to do--plus, obviously, even if the deer was intended for the family to consume, it is still a health code violation to store it in their restaurant, no matter how many safety precautions they might have taken. I'm just saying that, having worked in non-corporate restaurants for a long time, I don't find it hard to believe that the deer was intended for personal use. And I'm not going to assume differently because of an ugly ethnic stereotype.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
63. All the rednecks here clean their deer outside
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:44 AM
Oct 2012

Were they planning to butcher the thing in the kitchen?

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
70. I'm guessing they didn't have access to a large freezer and prep space at home
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:51 PM
Oct 2012

whereas the restaurant did.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
41. “I’m not gonna try it. You try it.” ”I’M not gonna try it. YOU try it!”
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:17 PM
Oct 2012

“Hey, I know, let’s get Mikey to try it. He won’t like it; he hates everything! Hey, Mikey!”







 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
46. If I ordered food in a restaurant, only to find out it was road kill...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:02 PM
Oct 2012

I'd be some SERIOUSLY pissed off. Everyone in this thread saying "yum" etc., fine. You eat dead things off the road if you want. But dont serve that shit to me without my knowledge at a RESTAURANT. Thats no way to treat people OR to run a business.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
64. In old Kentuck' in the afternoon
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:56 AM
Oct 2012

We'd scan the roadside for some deer or raccoon
And haul it back to our cafe
And serve it as our special for the day

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
66. Between arsenic laced rice, roadkill/mystery meat
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:49 AM
Oct 2012

and msg, I'm completely done. You really have to be careful when eating at any restaurant, particularly those that are struggling and don't have a national reputation to maintain.

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