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Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 04:27 PM Oct 2012

“47%” Was Bad for Romney; Ryan Has Been Deadly

Interesting (and heartening) analysis. If Obama is now winning seniors, who the heck is left in the GOP?

At the time of his selection, a number of pundits argued Ryan’s strategic benefits, suggesting he would boost Romney by energizing conservatives, or by allowing Romney to run as the candidate of big ideas, or that he would at least be the party’s best defender of the Medicare plan Romney was going to have to defend whether he wanted to or not. This seemed like a stretch at the time—after all, Ryan’s Medicare plan proved to be a massive liability the one time voters weighed in on it. But who could say for sure?

Well, fast forward a month-and-a-half and the numbers look pretty persuasive. This week the New York Times released a set of polls, conducted by Quinnipiac, assessing the state of the race in Ohio and Florida. The top-line numbers were jaw-dropping enough: Obama’s lead in Ohio grew from six to ten over the last month, and from three to nine in Florida. (It’s better to focus on the change here than the magnitude, which is highly sensitive to polling methodology.) But once you look at the internal numbers, they’re even less kind to Romney. More to the point, they suggest Ryan has done enormous damage to the ticket.


Whole thing here: http://www.tnr.com/blog/107829/47-was-bad-romney-ryan-has-been-deadly
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“47%” Was Bad for Romney; Ryan Has Been Deadly (Original Post) Proud Public Servant Oct 2012 OP
Bwa ha haa haaa !!! fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #1
Interestingly, Pew shows ProSense Oct 2012 #2
"There but by the grace of God ..." BlueStreak Oct 2012 #7
It seems Ryan's ideology worked well in his district but louis-t Oct 2012 #3
Ryan's ideas are good soundbites, and horrible policy. Barack_America Oct 2012 #4
Be still, my blue-collar heart! Cirque du So-What Oct 2012 #5
I remember something I read when Ryan Cha Oct 2012 #6

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. Interestingly, Pew shows
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 04:39 PM
Oct 2012

that 55 percent reacted negatively.



http://www.people-press.org/2012/10/01/romneys-47-comments-criticized-but-many-also-say-overcovered/

Mitt is taking a beating in the swing states and state polls, including right leaning ones.

Poll: Obama Leads Romney By 10 Points In Michigan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021447208

WaPo/ABC poll: Obama up 2 points nationally, up 11 points among swing-state voters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021444351

Yet somehow the national polls are showing the race tightening, not because Mitt is rising, but Obama lost a few points.

CNN for example shows Mitt up a point, and Obama down three points. What's up with that?

Battle for presidency remains close in new CNN poll
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/01/battle-for-presidency-remains-close-in-new-cnn-poll/

CNN attributes this to a fading bounce.



 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
7. "There but by the grace of God ..."
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 05:34 PM
Oct 2012

Romney's vision is that things are OK for the 1%, and the 47% don't deserve even basic human compassion. What he didn't count on is that there are a whole bunch of people in "the good 53%" who can easily see themselves in "the bad 47%". All it takes is one sickness, one pink slip, or simply reaching retirement age.

So Romney's "47% problem" is a lot bigger than 47%.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
4. Ryan's ideas are good soundbites, and horrible policy.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

Not surprised people are not impressed now they're getting to hear more details.

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)
5. Be still, my blue-collar heart!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 05:28 PM
Oct 2012

Once this cretin gets exposure beyond the beltway, Lyin' Ryan is a one-man wrecking crew.

Cha

(297,271 posts)
6. I remember something I read when Ryan
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 05:34 PM
Oct 2012

was on morning joe and talking about his "plan" and some producer was quoted as saying "I thnk I'm in love!" So glad others aren't quite so sucked in.

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