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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:46 PM Oct 2012

California Governor Jerry Brown Gives Drivers Licenses to Illegal Immigrants

If you’re one of the 400,000 young illegal immigrants in California, then now’s your chance to get a California drivers license.

Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill on Sunday night which lets young people qualify for licenses if they are accepted by a federal program giving work permits to immigrants who came to the United States before they were 16 and are now 30 years old or younger, according to Sacramento radio station KFBK.

“Gov. Brown believes the federal government should pursue comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship,” Brown spokesman Gil Duran was quoted by the Los Angeles Times as saying. “President Obama has recognized the unique status of these students, and making them eligible to apply for driver’s licenses is an obvious next step.”

http://blog.sfgate.com/incontracosta/2012/10/01/california-governor-jerry-brown-gives-drivers-licenses-to-illegal-immigrants/

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California Governor Jerry Brown Gives Drivers Licenses to Illegal Immigrants (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Oct 2012 OP
Worst (Newspaper) title ever. Love the content, you go Jerry!! Melinda Oct 2012 #1
+ 1 pinto Oct 2012 #5
+2 Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #6
OMG, yes. I was busy yesterday, then returned a call to a teabag relative who proceeded to go all freshwest Oct 2012 #15
Right thing to do. People have to drive to work. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #2
Good for him. It's worked well in NM Warpy Oct 2012 #3
GO JERRY! David Zephyr Oct 2012 #4
Nope. He allowed undocumented residents to apply for drivers licenses. Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #7
thank you for pointing that out. barbtries Oct 2012 #13
Good! I want everybody else on the road to have passed a test and have insurance. LeftyMom Oct 2012 #8
Seems fair to me. . B Calm Oct 2012 #9
seems reasonable hrmjustin Oct 2012 #10
Good! The ability and permitting to drive a car should be separated from immigration legal issues. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #11
what a headline barbtries Oct 2012 #12
This is a GOOD thing! Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #14

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. OMG, yes. I was busy yesterday, then returned a call to a teabag relative who proceeded to go all
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Fri May 3, 2013, 02:31 PM - Edit history (3)

Glennbeckistan on me. I didn't know that this article is what spurred the insanity for yesterday!

She was ranting about 'Obama going to foreign countries' making deals on importing millions of Mexicans to win elections. Said how they were are all being given driver licenses, put on welfare, so of course they would all vote for Democrats!

To which I said, we don't do that up here (upper Left Coast blue state) and you should talk to your Governor Perry about it being done down there. I went into how we didn't have many illegals except in the red areas where they're used for cheap labor.

She wanted to know why, and I said we are not a Right-to-Work (for less) state, our legislature doesn't give welfare to illegals, nor licenses, nor do they vote. She was mildly comforted at that idea, wasn't sure if Texas was doing it, but didn't bring up California at all. I doubt she knew.

I tried to shift the conversation over to a friend who'd just paid off her home and retired, put on solat panels, etc. That we were also making use of wind power and hydroelectric, etc. and our light company is non-profit. She said it'll never work in Texas, and I pointed out the large amount of wind turbines in the west part of the state I'd seen and even talked to those putting them up.

She said that had not worked out, but I said it had for those I knew who built them for their farms and used them to get off the grid. I suggested that with all that sunshine in Texas, it could lead the way with solar power. She said the weather was too bad. I remarked since we have 310+ million people and are predicted to have many more people by the turn of the century, we'll have to try harder.

That led her back to blaming that increase on illegal Mexicans having millions of babies on welfare so the Democrats would win elections. So she finally began to froth at the mouth, talking about how 'this isn't the country I grew up in!' and 'this is a Christian Nation, and 'if they don't like it they can go back to where they came from!'

I started to say that most Mexicans are Christians, but she was on a roll. Warmed up, she yelled, 'We can't take four more years of Obama turning us into Communism!' Grammatically incorrect, but what do you expect?

Mind you, her hubby, the sane one of the pair, is on Social Security and VA disability. She's been excited about going on Social Security herself, and their medical care is government supported and very good.

When she got louder about Obama, she yelled at me saying, wasn't I was scared about him getting re-elected? To which I said, 'No, I'm not worried about it at all. No one up here is.' That's when the frothing began, how could I not be concerned about how he will end this nation and she pulled out her final verbal weapon...

How Obama is bringing in Sharia Law!!!. Finally rounded up with 'If I have to, I'll take up arms, although I've never fired a gun, and I'll kill anyone who tries to do it.'

At that point I had to bite my tongue and not say if she'd just stay home, no one would notice her and no one was coming to get her to convert. Actually I think she'd look cuter in a burka than that sofa throw cover she walks around in.

Somewhere in the middle of the diatribe, she also went into how she's met people in the Tea Party, that the media is lying about them, they are really nice and never rude or violent like the Occupy people. Who she said are running loose raping people, defecating everywhere, drunk and scumbags, etc. (Shades of Breitbart.)

I thought she was coming back to Sanity a while back after the 47% uproar, but hate radio and FOX has pulled her right back into her alternative reality, and it's really scary. What a weird way to end the evening. Fortunately, her husband got her off the phone...

Sigh. And this story was a trigger for her.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
2. Right thing to do. People have to drive to work.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:50 PM
Oct 2012

Why not have them driving legally and not have an unlicensed person behind an auto wheel?

Warpy

(111,275 posts)
3. Good for him. It's worked well in NM
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:51 PM
Oct 2012

Crashes with uninsured drivers are down as people here without documents are able to register and insure their cars. The license is also an identification card for them, which makes their monetary life a bit easier.

The licenses are different from citizen licenses because there is a very large blank area where the SSN is supposed to be.

Undocumented aliens from out of state who try to come here and get licenses are arrested and deported, there are stories about them in the press just often enough to discourage a flood.

These licenses won't allow anyone to vote or sign up for food stamps. Nor do they entitle anyone to free medical care or subsidized housing. They are only so they can drive legally here. That's all. And it's been working well for years.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
13. thank you for pointing that out.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:39 AM
Oct 2012

i try not to fall into accepting that nomenclature but it is so pervasive.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
8. Good! I want everybody else on the road to have passed a test and have insurance.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:02 AM
Oct 2012

People don't bring this aspect of the licensing issue up as much, but with budget cuts here school bus service ranges from spotty to non-existent. People need to be able to get their kids to school safely and reliably for those kids to have a chance to get ahead, and in most of the state that means needing a car and a license.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Good! The ability and permitting to drive a car should be separated from immigration legal issues.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:57 AM
Oct 2012

This way, they can get legally trained to drive a car, get legally licensed, and get insurance, so they can get from point A to point B without putting themselves and others at risk of enormous liability.

And we still need to work to get the word "illegal" out of people's vocabulary when talking about immigration. There should not be such a thing as illegal humans.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
12. what a headline
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:37 AM
Oct 2012

the image of Jerry Brown just passing out DLs to illegals.

just passing them out, giving them to the people.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
14. This is a GOOD thing!
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:43 AM
Oct 2012

Undocumented workers haven't been able to get drivers licenses which means they can't get insurance. No one benefits from that system.

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