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is this where we are actually headed?
" T)he chained CPI or also called the superlative CPI thats being proposed by some members of the super committee and has been discussed in the deficit reduction discussions, that alternative simply does not pass the smell test. It would only make a situation we have today worse. We are not adequately in my opinion and in the opinion of others adjusting for inflation. Today the chained CPI, if its implemented, will further reduce benefits. A woman who retires at age 65 living til age 75 will get a benefit of about $600 less in real dollars 10 years later at age 85, about $950 or so less at age 95 if she lives so long it would be roughly $1,400 less than it would have been if the chained CPI is put into effect.
The consumer price index for the elderly which the Older Americans Act asked to be developed by the Bureau of Statistics. CPI-E for Americans over 62 is a far superior measure of inflation, but it too is less than perfect but its certainly better than what we have in play today.
In terms of the impact of inflation on older households and on persons with disabilities, the public would be very well served if initially the CPI-E were to put into effect and if Congress requested further development and testing of price indices.
We all have an interest in an accurate CPI. Democrats and Republicans all have an interest in that. The problem I think we have today is we do not have an accurate CPI. I think if we get a more accurate CPI, it would in fact not increase but adjust benefits. We dont want a national policy that says the longer you live the less purchasing power your Social Security has. Thats what we will have if we implement the chained CPI. It is also arguably what we still have today because the current CPI does not fully adjust for it.
The implications, by the way, of the chained CPI on the SSI program are even more deleterious, because it would both cut benefits in the beginning before people get benefits and it will also be cutting their benefits after that. Whether implemented in 2011 or 2021, the chained CPI will violate promises that Congress and the president have made that there would be no changes to Social Security benefits affecting people 55 and over. Its bad policy, and its also terrible public relations.
Social Security is a promise. Its a promise Americans expect their government to keep. This is true across all political spectrums. Its true for Tea Party households and union households.
Americans are not easily deceived. If Congress chooses to implement the [chained]CPI, ultimately theyll understand that in terms of Social Security over 10 years, itll take $121 billion directly out of the pockets of Social Security beneficiaries. They will understand that their government has let them down.
So its very important that youre casting light today on this issue. Its very appreciated that youve put this panel together, and we are delighted to assist in any way possible.
Link: http://www.whatthefolly.com/2011/10/20/transcript-dr-eric-kingson-on-cost-of-living-adjustments-for-social-security-recipients/
I suspect it is...do you?
MadHound
(34,179 posts)I suspect that at some point we're going to raise the retirement age and switch to the chained CPI, at the bare minimum. Our benefits thus be reduced, and done so in a way that few people will be aware of.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Lots of people plan lots of things that do not come to fruition.
kooljerk666
(776 posts)and my take is SS & Vet benefits should be tied to CONGRESSIONAL RAISES.
The Dem leadership better figure out that money can not buy an election, just look at Ohio, $20,000,000 for Sherod Browns opponent, and Sherod Brown is ahead by 10 pts.
I am hoping with the destruction of the GOP, the dems take a giant step to the left, cause I am already stepping.
If any dem incumbent is part of this fuck over, they might not have a job next election cycle.
NorthCarolina
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(32,139 posts)advertising themselves as the defenders of the 99 percent, it will be the most cynical, deliberate, and outrageous betrayal of American voters in recent memory.
And it will be proof that our electoral system is theater by the oligarchy.
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Please write and call your representatives now and raise hell.
Don't let them get away with a chained CPI or any other attacks on Social Security benefits.
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(32,139 posts)We cannot allow this to happen.