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OH BOY!!!! Samsung is suing Apple because there claiming Apple stole there patent (Original Post) bigdarryl Oct 2012 OP
THEY'RE claiming Apple stole THEIR patent. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #1
oh, their you go again napkinz Oct 2012 #6
Mine, also. enlightenment Oct 2012 #11
highjacking a thread by correcting grammar... lame54 Oct 2012 #24
It's true. There's no "there" there. TDale313 Oct 2012 #26
ScuzzSung is employing Republican stragtery Berlum Oct 2012 #2
Yeah sharp_stick Oct 2012 #3
yeah Berlum Oct 2012 #5
But...but...but... HappyMe Oct 2012 #9
Wait, are you implying Apple in fact did not invent rectangles? (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #25
wow I love that picture Enrique Oct 2012 #8
Headline should be HappyMe Oct 2012 #4
Who does Samsung think they are? Zerox? CBGLuthier Oct 2012 #7
Good Artists Copy Great Artists Steal FredisDead Oct 2012 #10
To to mention the Swiss Railway clock ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #12
All innovations are derivative. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #13
MAC OS was stolen from Xerox. Windows from MAC. Lotus from VisiCalc. SQL Server from Sybase. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #15
Agree. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #18
Two glaring examples - variable speed windscreen wipers and ice-cycle Christmas lights. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #19
I thought the wiper inventor was still fighting.... NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #20
No, the variable speed wiper guy eventually won - didn't get shit out of it. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #21
I thought we already went through this one. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #14
give it time, this thread will devolve into a Mac vs PC fight. nt Javaman Oct 2012 #16
BUY A MAC! HopeHoops Oct 2012 #22
Of course. Dr. Strange Oct 2012 #23
Apple sucks. They think they own a monopoly on square shaped devices with glowing screens. Proles Oct 2012 #17

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
2. ScuzzSung is employing Republican stragtery
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:11 AM
Oct 2012

steal shit and then project your guilt on the person you stole from

Totally Republican. Totally occult. Totally skeevy.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. But...but...but...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:21 AM
Oct 2012

they're 'geniuses'!!1

These pissing matches have pretty much convinced me that I don't want or need any overpriced crap.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
4. Headline should be
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:13 AM
Oct 2012

'Samsung and Apple lawyers bored, agree starting shit with one another justifies salaries'.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
15. MAC OS was stolen from Xerox. Windows from MAC. Lotus from VisiCalc. SQL Server from Sybase.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:52 AM
Oct 2012

It's an incestuous industry by nature. These patent fights are a waste of time. Cooperation and collaboration would advance technology at a far faster pace.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
18. Agree.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:31 AM
Oct 2012

While talent should have it's rewards, humanity is not well served by an over-concern with intellectual property.

The patent system was, in it's design, meant to be a balance between protection of rights and the sharing of useful information for the purposes of further innovation.

The further innovation part seems to have been dismissed or forgotten in favor of the profit factor.

A terrific movie, "Remix", by Lawrence Lessig discusses the concept of derivative creations in a fun way.

It's also a book: http://remix.lessig.org/

Another great Lessig book is free to download, "Free Culture": http://www.free-culture.cc/

And, good news in California, Governor Brown signed into law on September 27:

Governor Brown Signs Legislation to Create Free Open Textbooks

October 1, 2012 By Mike Palmedo

On September 27, California Governor Jerry Brown signed two bills into law to provide open access textbooks to students in the University of California university system. SB 1052, establishes the California Open Education Resources Council, which will guide the development of textbooks for fifty core college courses. The second bill, SB 1053, creates the California Digital Open Source Library where the free texts will be housed. The textbooks will be available for free online under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Students wishing to buy hard copies will be able to do so for around $20.

The bills were introduced by State Senator Darrell Steinberg, and passed the legislature with little opposition. In a statement, Sen. Steinberg said: “The current cost of traditional textbooks is so high, some college students are forced to struggle through a required class without the textbook, forced to drop classes or sometimes even drop out of college altogether. There’s absolutely no reason a basic biology, statistics or accounting textbook, for example, should cost $200. The Governor has shown great vision in signing this legislation as a way to help tens of thousands of students and families with the increasing expenses of higher education. Any avenue towards reducing those costs opens more doors for our students, and that in turn continues development of the educated workforce we need to fuel California’s economic engine.”

Timothy Vollmer, TITLE of Creative Commons said in a blog that “This is a massive win for California, and a most welcome example of open policy that aims to leverage open licensing to save money for California families and support the needs of teachers and students. We’ll continue to track this initiative and other Open Education Policies at our OER registry.”


 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
19. Two glaring examples - variable speed windscreen wipers and ice-cycle Christmas lights.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:40 AM
Oct 2012

In the first example, the guy who invented the variable speed wipers spent three decades suing GM for stealing the idea. His eventual settlement barely covered the legal fees.

In the second example, within a week or two of filing the patent, WalMart was selling a "made in China" knock off and the poor guy never made a dime off of the idea.

My dad actually holds a patent for a backup storage device that used sprocketed magnetic tape in a VCR-sized cartridge (with a standard Apple-II floppy drive head) that would hold 8 floppies of information per cartridge and had two cartridge slots. By the time the patent came through, the technology had far surpassed what he invented.

The system is of little use now. China doesn't give a fucking shit about intellectual property rights. They just use the patent filings as blue prints to infringe on them. "Welcome to WalMart".



 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
20. I thought the wiper inventor was still fighting....
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:03 PM
Oct 2012

Good examples.

I have two (or more if you include design patents) patents made by my former employer who never credited me on the patent as he should have, but I did at least take home a prototype and force him to a 5% agreement should it become successful, and it did!

Much as I'd love to have my name on the patents, there's no way I'm going to spend the money on lawyers to fight it.

On another invention that I developed in the 90's, after leaving that firm, I decided to keep it a trade secret because I saw the writing on the wall with NAFTA and globalism and I ended my business because I didn't want to compete with the knockoffs that I knew would come.

BTW, I found the link to the movie I couldn't find in my early reply to you for the movie called RIP: A Remix Manifesto (more about copyright than patents).

http://ripremix.com/downloads/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RiP!:_A_Remix_Manifesto

I hope you can find the time to download and enjoy it.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
21. No, the variable speed wiper guy eventually won - didn't get shit out of it.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oct 2012

HOWEVER, his lawyers made a shitload from the case.

Proles

(466 posts)
17. Apple sucks. They think they own a monopoly on square shaped devices with glowing screens.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:19 AM
Oct 2012

They act as though they're such profound innovators who created all their products from scratch. Don't get me wrong, they're revolutionary marketers, but I just can't jump on the Apple-cult-bandwagon.

Samsung should have won the previous lawsuit, and I hope they win this one. The last thing I want is for Apple to overprice phones that aren't technologically superior to Samsung or other competing brands... Oh, well they're kinda already doing that, but at least I can still choose my Samsung!

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