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The Romney campaign believes their candidate needs to show empathy with Americans' economic troubles in the first presidential debate Wednesday, advisers to Mitt Romney told National Review. In debate prep, Romney has practiced coming across as personable and may share stories from the trail about people who have been hit hard during the recession.
From National Review:
Romneys advisers have a simple strategy: They want their candidate to balance his finely tuned arguments with personal warmth. Since Romney is a reserved man, his advisers acknowledge that it will be difficult for him to endear himself to the country, especially under the hot studio lights. But they consider it critical. This is really about introducing him to the country, a Romney adviser says. Its the largest audience he has ever had. Everybodys watching.
During prep sessions in Vermont this past month, Romney has worked tirelessly on the stylistic aspect of his presentation, and Romneys advisers predict that the former Massachusetts governor will come across as both presidential and empathetic. Rather than fire off brusque retorts, as he often did during primary debates, Romney will take care to speak in paragraphs about the economy, a second aide says.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/advisers-say-romney-will-show-empathy-in-debate
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Would be more funny if it shorted out.
To appear empathic, one must actually experience empathy, and I do not think Willard is capable of this.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)For those who aren't familiar with Star Trek the new generation, Data was the android officer on the Enterprise who could not feel emotion (at least until the end), while Lore was his nearly twin brother prototype, who could feel emotion but was an insane psychopath.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)Not going to work. Mittens would be faking it and the President would not.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)You either have it or you don't, and Mitt doesn't have it.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I bet they have had his (best?) bishop moments gathered and constantly repeated as part of his practice.
TouFreakingChe'!
redwitch
(14,944 posts)No wonder he looks so tired!
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)YOU try feeling empathy for the Great Unwashed.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Actual corporate presentation on how to make empathetic facial expressions for customers, from Best Buy:
renate
(13,776 posts)It just makes me giggle to think of Romney being taught to express a human emotion--because I do not doubt at all that something like this was part of his debate prep.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)That's the best he can muster.
marmar
(77,081 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)"I feel so bad for those poor folks that I'm going to cut their food stamps and give myself another tax cut."
slampoet
(5,032 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)It's almost enough to get me to watch the debate.
But not quite.
Donkees
(31,414 posts)...he's working on a Bill Clinton impersonation
DemzRock
(1,016 posts)would be a pain in mah wallet, and Obama is a Muslim!
ZIIIIIING!
Donkees
(31,414 posts)...why don't you just go to the emergency room?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I don't care how much Romney practices, memorizes....stands in front of the mirror making faces until he perfects a 'concerned' look....can't fake empathy.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I can hardly wait.
Talk about "epic fail" being written all over something.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)The most important determinant of healthy relationships is a strong sense of empathy. This man is running for the highest office in the land and the fact that he has to practice to appear human is appalling on every level.
And it won't work. We heard his true self, his attempts to pretend he cares will fall flat. And I will be delighted when that happens.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)I secretly knew you were a DUer. Rock on, girl.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)How do I see something that is redacted?
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)Yanno, we're not supposed to "know" each other outside of therapy.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Getting back to work in 2014 after being a SAHM since 2009.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)My therapist and I are so alike it's scary. We were born on the same day. I don't know if that's good or not, but we have some deep discussions. I am a little sad that I can't ever be her friend.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Good luck to you too!
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)But he is a thoroughly detestable human being. That story of him cutting that boys hair off and putting the dog on the roof literally make me tear up. I have real contempt for those who pick on helpless creatures. At the very least he is arrogant and entitled and struggles with empathy. I diagnose him with asshole syndrome!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)sdfernando
(4,935 posts)Empathy is an emotion. You can't practice it you have to feel it...and rMoney has never experienced empathy for anyone or anything so he has no reference point. It will be blatantly obvious that he is faking it. It will be a good performance to watch, kinda like a huge pileup on the freeway, all in slow motion.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Every human has the ability to observe and imitate. They probably showed him films and said, notice the crinkling eye and slight smile.
Question is which actor he'll be imitating, Reagan?
jsr
(7,712 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)pretend to have principles, and throw in some impeccably-timed "zingers", he really could win this thing.
Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)best prepared would have a heavy lift. This could be very entertaining!
monmouth
(21,078 posts)dude for what seems eons. It's like the drunk that keeps re-introducing someone you've met six times. This just won't work..sorry..
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)to have to send out Somebody other than Mitt Romney. His problem is that when he was dissing out his 47% remarks to the $50,000 a plate dinner he led them in the perception that it was all minorities and poor people who were going to vote with this President no matter what. But because he and his Campaign won't be bound by fact checkers they forgot to check the facts. Duh!!!!! The Republican base woke up and realized it was them he was talking about. ( out of the top 10 states to receive some form of Government Assistance are the Republican States which make up quite a bit of the Republican Base. How Clueless can a Campaign really be??? No Mitt Romney really is out of touch. And he will Always be clueless. I better Stop It. I know its hard. Insulting your own base. Go Mitt Go!!!!!!!
dawg
(10,624 posts)BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)YankeyMCC
(8,401 posts)No DUplicitous DUpe
(2,994 posts)So he needs to go from a lousy candidate to a great actor. Tough transition to pull off.
Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)spinbaby
(15,090 posts)How bizarre.
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)every time he tries to "project empathy" he just comes off as a disingenuous snake oil salesman... and, yeah, it's a little late to "introduce" Romney. You can try to make us forget Bush, but it's too soon for most people to have forgotten about the 47% comment.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Pursing lips, cocking head to one side and blowing one's nose, isn't real empathy. It's bad acting.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)sadly, it is not.
teaching a sociopath empathy is like teaching a dog geometry.
Ain't gonna happen.
At best it will come off as awkward and staged.
we should all look closely at the palm of his hand for "notes" on "emoting".
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Showing emphaty? Practicing zingers? This is so...mechanical and robotic. Like Romney needs an upload of human emotion plus programmed zippy responses. It's kind of bizarre really. Rombot version 1,992,4355 needed fine tuning.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)When I've felt it or shown it, it has always been spontaneous.
Programming empathy is sociopathic.
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Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Spazito
(50,362 posts)when Romney tried to show his 'empathy' it came across badly and only reminded everyone his 'empathetic' 47% comment.
He can try and walk that back but, imo, it won't work, everyone SAW him say it, heard the vitriol he spewed toward half the population with his 'they think they are ENTITLED to food'.
Lisa D
(1,532 posts)And that's because he doesn't feel empathy--especially for the 47% who he believes "fail to take possibility for their own lives" and "feel like they're entitled to food, to shelter...."
Actually, I can only think of examples where he showed the opposite of empathy.
Look his response to LGBT people: "I didn't know you had families."
His response to a homeless woman asking for help after the flood in New Orleans: "Go home and call 211."
His response to a teacher he'd invited to a roundtable. When she tried to explain something to him, he cut her off with: "I didn't ask you a question."
Not sure this empathy gambit is going to work. You have to actually feel empathy before you can show it. Even worse for Romney, you have to make people believe it.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)When someone tries to show empathy when they don't actually feel empathy that's exactly how they come off - as condescending.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)DearAbby
(12,461 posts)he is a human being, 30 days out from the election...you have problems.
He had to prep on being empathic...that says a lot. HOURS AND HOURS of prepared text to give the appearance he has empathy....Sheeeeeeesh
polichick
(37,152 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)he's gotta do it for 90 minutes? With pre-fab answers and "zingers"? Bring it on.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)I thought the Republican debates were about introducing himself to the country. Then I thought the RNC Convention was about introducing himself to the country. How many introductions does it take?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)I ain't touching that.
kiranon
(1,727 posts)and his life/business history. Retroactive empathy? Prospective empathy and I have a bridge to sell you.
MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)I think this empathy thing needs it own thread: "Ideas for how a cold fish like Mitt Rmoney can demonstrate empathy at the debate"
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Fake empathy. Zingers. I can't wait.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Stan Winston is the Hollywood special effects genius who turned Arnold into the Terminator and built the dinos for the Jurassic Park franchise.
While I do not think Mitt Romney is a robot, I do think a robot shaped like Mitt would be capable of empathy. Mitt...not so.
The game plan for Wednesday: send out the Mittinator to debate Obama. Reviews on Thursday will highlight how Mitt wasn't as robotlike as usual.
entanglement
(3,615 posts)jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Ve Neill was makeup department head on Hunger Games and a few of the Batman movies, Jake Garber did Hellboy and Morag Ross was makeup department head on The Aviator. Any one of the three could do Mitt Romney prosthetics on an actual human being, and that would be safer than sending the real Mitt Romney up against Obama.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)But nobody's gonna buy it.
Bake
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Everyone else remembers the confirmation process for Sotomayor, right?
mikeytherat
(6,829 posts)This sad little fact is underscored by Mitt's inability to open his mouth without being a dick.
Now, to any naysayers or partisans out there, notice I have not said one word about Mitt's politics, positions, or presidential passions - one must get past the "unlikable asshole" stench before anything else is discussed.
mikey_the_rat
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)The man doesn't appear to show empathy, even with his own family. How is it going to work to have him fake it now?
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)haele
(12,659 posts)But then, Reagan was a trained actor to some degree, and had quite a lot of experience playing the harmless, congenial honest working man that could possibly be viewed as being "empathetic" before he went into politics, so he was pretty decent at "winging" it on stage and sounding as if he knew and felt what he was talking about. He was also pretty much working class growing up, so he did have some experience with regular working people.
I don't think Mitt has the talent to create a persona and live within that "skin" of the average american for any length of time, let alone deal with the complexity of creating a concerned presidential leader of "the people" persona.
The only persona he's ever been able to pull off is the successful financier/executive. Not a role as a real businessman/business owner mind you, but as a rich guy who works with other rich guys and with money.
Acting is a talent - or at least a skill that takes lots of practice to pull off. I don't think Romeny has the time - or interest - to learn what he needs to learn to pull off the Reagan role I think his handlers want him to. I don't even think he has the time to learn to pull off GWB's bored goof-ball frat-boy personality.
Haele
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)It sounds like something only a brain dead person would say when he has no other response.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)He implied that the President was a liar. Reagan was an actor and knew how to deliver a line and for some reason that four word sentence resonated mightily with the people.
Never mind that the statement Carter had just delivered was correct and important, never mind that Reagan offered no real substantive counter argument. He was able to dismiss Carter entirely and look good doing it. People didn't like Jimmy's harsh truths and preferred Reagan's sunny racist bullshit.
Your description gave me a good laugh though.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Seriously... how messed up is that?
frylock
(34,825 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)and mention the names of a soldier, a mom, a fireman, etc.
Then he'll address each of them saying what he wants to do to improve their lives (after he tells them how the president's policies had hurt them)
We're going to hear a lot of "I met with John G., a soldier who fought in Iraq, who lives in Ohio, and has been out or work."
"I met with Jane S, a mom, with two kids who blah blah blah."
Now the question I have, is how does President Obama respond to this [font size="3"]feigned[/font] empathy approach?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Or purchased with SuperPAC money.
DearHeart
(692 posts)And he certainly can't fake it...that overly, syrupy-sweet "sincerity" voice he uses, just makes me want to puke!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)If Romney shows up at the debate and shows us some "empathy", we can forget about the 47% remarks and presume that if elected he will have compassion and empathy for the 47% and make sure they are better taken care of than they would be under President Obama? Ok, jolly good. Move along. Nothing to see here.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)What is the point of telling people ahead of time that he is going to have zingers or that he is going to be empathetic?
It just completely undermines Romney's performance.
If he doesn't do it people will wonder what happened and if he does they will say it is practiced and insincere.
This group of advisors are the worst ever assembled for a campaign.
VOX
(22,976 posts)"I want everyone to succeed, regardless of race, creed, national origin or sexual preference. I'll put a chicken in every pot -- I'll even issue chicken vouchers. Tax cuts for all. Love for family and Almighty God, loving master of everything, including America, still the greatest nation on Earth. I've got that can-do spirit. Jobs for all, provided by your best friends, big corporations, those heroic, long-suffering job creators. All needs of the infirm and elderly will be met. Love me, I deserve it. Trust me, no matter what I've said before. Ignore all that. I'm your man. So, you like my spray tan and white sidewalls? Huh? Am I cool and hip or what? See you at Chipotle, where I hang out all the time -- you saw the photos, right? God bless each and every one of you, and the United States of America, where the trees are all the right height. I'm Mitt Romney, and I really, truly, totally approve this message."