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OneBro

(1,159 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:33 PM Nov 2020

How 'bout some poetic justice for Melania Trump?

As recently written in Slate, Melania is about as honest as her husband Donald.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/goodbye-melania-trump.html
"Melania has lied about everything from getting a bachelor’s degree to speaking five languages to the significance of her “I Really Don’t Care Do U” jacket—which she wore as a publicity stunt while visiting desperate children whom the Trump administration had separated from their families."

Now what are the odds that Melania also lied on her application to become a naturalized citizen? Given her insistence that Obama release his birth certificate, surely her application for citizenship is fair game. Anyway, if she lied, I say she should be the first First Lady (cough) to get kicked the f*ck out of America.

Here's a bit of relevant law to wet your whistle:

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-l-chapter-2
In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on the following grounds:
A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution.
Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation.
B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation
A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.
In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:
The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;
The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;
The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and
The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment.

Editing to add this video link (Thanks for the heads-up fierywoman!)

&list=LLbTqejYiNlQe4xFsiXxFrDg&index=3504
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How 'bout some poetic justice for Melania Trump? (Original Post) OneBro Nov 2020 OP
trump has been holding that over her head for 4 years... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #1
All these years and I'm still angry that she had the gall to be a birther. OneBro Nov 2020 #3
Slate's Goodbye memos are a hoot underpants Nov 2020 #2
Nice! I didn't know there were other memos. I've got some reading to do. OneBro Nov 2020 #4
Jared, Miller, Hope, all of them underpants Nov 2020 #6
Where do I find these? Thanks! phylny Nov 2020 #12
Slate.com underpants Nov 2020 #14
Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation: fierywoman Nov 2020 #5
Yes we await trDump to deliver promised documents to no avail. magicarpet Nov 2020 #7
And the b.s. about her speaking five languages. OneBro Nov 2020 #8
You saw the youtube guy who questioned her Italian and French (he's fluent)? fierywoman Nov 2020 #9
Didn't know about it. Googling now. OneBro Nov 2020 #10
You'll l*o*v*e it !!! fierywoman Nov 2020 #11
Found it! Thank you! OneBro Nov 2020 #13
I remember when she was with Pope Francis - and couldn't understand a word sandensea Nov 2020 #22
They would have mocked her for speaking another language, especially French, as they did John Kerry. deurbano Nov 2020 #16
Here's why: AZ8theist Nov 2020 #25
I think there have always been enough Americans with a "genius" for nude modeling, without having deurbano Nov 2020 #17
🤨ok I really like it... bringthePaine Nov 2020 #15
She's scum but CNN reported that she wants Trump to concede! LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #18
Something about golf balls and PCIntern Nov 2020 #19
No Thanks COL Mustard Nov 2020 #20
Sure. Instead of handcuffs, a hose bond. sandensea Nov 2020 #21
Why would she even care? She's free now. Schmice3 Nov 2020 #23
Good points, but I'm totally okay with some other country having her and her money. OneBro Nov 2020 #28
She can say in five languages. njhoneybadger Nov 2020 #24
She may want to flee the country anyway--to some non-extradition country. tclambert Nov 2020 #26
She will stay with him as he does not have to many years before he kicks the bucket and she gets her cstanleytech Nov 2020 #29
I suspect Donald would be afraid to go to Russia. Non-useful idiots don't do well there. OneBro Nov 2020 #30
His fondness for... 2naSalit Nov 2020 #31
If deportation is acceptable for people that already have children born in the US then she should cstanleytech Nov 2020 #27
... orleans Nov 2020 #32

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
1. trump has been holding that over her head for 4 years...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:36 PM
Nov 2020

And her parents as well. As long as controls state, she has to be a good little toadie or she knows what he will do.

I don't care, do you? Ship her back. Ship the rest of the trumps to gitmo.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
3. All these years and I'm still angry that she had the gall to be a birther.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:38 PM
Nov 2020

Came from another country and put on her racist, white privilege robe before the ink on her citizenship papers was dry.

underpants

(182,830 posts)
6. Jared, Miller, Hope, all of them
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:46 PM
Nov 2020

I was actual to read quite a few without getting shut off by their pay wall.

fierywoman

(7,686 posts)
5. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation:
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:45 PM
Nov 2020

Whatever she presented that got her an Einstein visa.

Remember when it, in the summer of 2016, said he would be providing the details of her immigrant and naturalization process, "in two weeks"?

I'm so fucking sick of two weeks.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
7. Yes we await trDump to deliver promised documents to no avail.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:56 PM
Nov 2020

The dirty dirt trDump's crack(head) investigative team found out about Obama in Hawaii.

Melania's detailed immigration paperwork for grounds of entry to the USA.

trDump's tax papers for ten years at the IRS.

trDump's military school transcripts and college transcripts showing what a high IQ he has and how he always graduates at the top of his class academically.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
8. And the b.s. about her speaking five languages.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:57 PM
Nov 2020

If Michelle Obama claimed to speak five languages Fox News and the supposedly liberal media would have lined up with translators so they could challenge her in each of the languages.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
13. Found it! Thank you!
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:13 PM
Nov 2020
&list=LLbTqejYiNlQe4xFsiXxFrDg&index=3504
"She's fluent in Michelle Obama." Ouch!

The comments on the youtube video were also telling.

sandensea

(21,639 posts)
22. I remember when she was with Pope Francis - and couldn't understand a word
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

You could almost read Francis' mind: "Non capisce niente di niente!"

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
16. They would have mocked her for speaking another language, especially French, as they did John Kerry.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:32 PM
Nov 2020

And remember the outcry at Michelle's bare arms, followed by silence at Melania's nude, soft porn-ish modeling.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
17. I think there have always been enough Americans with a "genius" for nude modeling, without having
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:36 PM
Nov 2020

to search the globe.

Schmice3

(294 posts)
23. Why would she even care? She's free now.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:40 PM
Nov 2020

She can now square away her portfolio, secure her secret foreign accounts, get her money up front, divorce him and then live like a queen abroad. Surely some friendly or cash strapped country will let her quarantine there before allowing her to stay. He won't be able to bother her because after his passports are revoked as a condition of bail, she'll then be able to write the "real story" and makes lots more money. Besides, the US comprises 4% of the world's population; this is not the center of anything anymore. Trump-Free zones in Cannes, St. Tropez, the Bahamas even, will welcome her money and free advertising because of her notoriety.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
26. She may want to flee the country anyway--to some non-extradition country.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:04 AM
Nov 2020

But probably not Russia, because that's where Donald most wants to go.

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
29. She will stay with him as he does not have to many years before he kicks the bucket and she gets her
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:06 AM
Nov 2020

hands on whatever assets he has hidden in varies overseas banks.

cstanleytech

(26,298 posts)
27. If deportation is acceptable for people that already have children born in the US then she should
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:05 AM
Nov 2020

not be granted special treatment if she broke the law and lied.

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