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just because I want Stephen Miller hunted down & tried like a nazi after the fall of Berlin (Original Post) KG Nov 2020 OP
I believe that you are being both restrained and practical Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #1
Justice is a virtue! vlyons Nov 2020 #2
If nothing else justice has a deterrent effect. No trial for Nixon meant no deterrence. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #13
And see what we got when we didn't go after Bush/Cheney for war crimes dhol82 Nov 2020 #14
Pelosi scuciti Nov 2020 #17
I think it was more Obama doing a kumbaya moment dhol82 Nov 2020 #18
I think Pelosi and Obama were both wnylib Nov 2020 #22
I'm good with that! PatrickforO Nov 2020 #3
I could very easily picture Miller in an SS uniform captain queeg Nov 2020 #4
Physically, he resembles Eichmann. wnylib Nov 2020 #23
I wonder if his own child will sleep in a cage? Ziggysmom Nov 2020 #5
I'm bitter as hell and I want revenge... agingdem Nov 2020 #6
... feel better now?.... nebby70 Nov 2020 #10
I'm ok with torturous death... agingdem Nov 2020 #20
Whoever made the policy decision on kids in cages bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #7
War crimes charge doesn't fit, but wnylib Nov 2020 #24
Does the Ceaușescu treatment work for ya? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #8
up against the wall, motherfuckers. KG Nov 2020 #12
Justice Is A Bitter Pill ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #9
Nuremberged...? griloco Nov 2020 #11
Nurumbergers are almost as tasty as hamberders! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #16
😆 griloco Nov 2020 #26
Just remember: you are a GOOD person! hatrack Nov 2020 #15
His crimes may not be prosecutable because they were "advice." Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #19
There were Nazi criminals who wnylib Nov 2020 #25
"Which would you care to shed first...?" FailureToCommunicate Nov 2020 #21
I'm afraid he's still brewing evil in the wings, pulling trump's strings. JudyM Nov 2020 #27
Paging Ben Ferencz. moondust Nov 2020 #28
Wouldn't it be funny if the tRUMP Klan had to go hide out in a Central American country? WyattKansas Nov 2020 #29

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I believe that you are being both restrained and practical
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 06:32 AM
Nov 2020

And it is something that needs to be done.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. Justice is a virtue!
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:00 AM
Nov 2020

Aristotle and Cicero both wrote about the virtue of justice. Even the Dalai Lama has written that righteous anger in response to injustice can be beneficial in correcting injustice for the benefit of others.

There's nothing to be bitter about. We can harness the energy of righteous anger in the pursuit of justice. And so we should.

Justice is a virtue!

scuciti

(33 posts)
17. Pelosi
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:11 AM
Nov 2020

And to a large extent responsibility for that failure has to fall on Nancy Pelosi who adamantly refused to impeach Bush over the Iraq war.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
18. I think it was more Obama doing a kumbaya moment
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:17 AM
Nov 2020

He really tried to calm everybody down and have a bipartisan government.
We didn't get it.

wnylib

(21,497 posts)
22. I think Pelosi and Obama were both
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:36 AM
Nov 2020

concerned about the nation as a whole and not making the polarization worse. Plus, whether they had the political backing in Congress and the public to succeed.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
3. I'm good with that!
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:15 AM
Nov 2020

Miller is just like Heydrich. A fanatical white supremacist. And he IS IN FACT guilty of crimes against humanity - at least 10,000 counts, and 545 counts of genocide.

captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
4. I could very easily picture Miller in an SS uniform
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:18 AM
Nov 2020

I’d like to see him in a Nuremberg type trial. He’d go full Himler if he was allowed.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
6. I'm bitter as hell and I want revenge...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:39 AM
Nov 2020

Last edited Mon Nov 9, 2020, 08:11 AM - Edit history (1)

I want to physically hurt that vile piece of putrid flesh...I want death by a thousand cuts (literally)..one stab for every family ripped apart, every caged baby, every orphaned child, every muslim denied entry...I want agonizing pain but still breathing when I throw his reptilian carcass into an unmarked grave...and that still wouldn't be enough...

nebby70

(471 posts)
10. ... feel better now?....
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 08:17 AM
Nov 2020

... I hear you; and there's a whole bunch of me that feels that way and can envision worse retribution ....
... Trump is vile; but his mental illness and constant circle of enablers is the cause ...
... Miller is - I have no word - a complete puzzle for me: his background is at odds of his violent/vicious/venom ...
... having said that - would you be able to look at yourself in the mirror if you went this route? ...
... we need to put our efforts into ways to squash his influence and zero-out his power ...
... perhaps, you will say that my approach is why we Dems always end up with the sticky end of the stick; but I believe vile people thrive in anger filled marketplaces - and we aren't (and should never be) vile. ...

... hang in there; work off some of this negative energy and get ready to work on... we can make it better only if our efforts are to make improvements not take revenge. If John Lewis could forgive those who beat and nearly killed him, we can try to do the same.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
20. I'm ok with torturous death...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:30 AM
Nov 2020

my parents were Holocaust survivors ..Auschwitz.. so I'm somewhat familiar with pure evil and Miller is pure evil..my parents were never big on forgiveness and neither am I...

bucolic_frolic

(43,192 posts)
7. Whoever made the policy decision on kids in cages
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 07:58 AM
Nov 2020

and had Trump sign off on it, deserves serious jail time. Just like waterboarding imho. Except this - think about this - targeted not our alleged enemies, but children and their poor families. Total moral failure. You'd call it war crimes if we were at war and any participant engaged in such behavior. It's systemic child abuse. To the poor children, it is torture, psychological as well as physical.

What I haven't heard in all the reporting on this is any indication that the children were well cared for, that social workers were looking after their mental health and development, that nannies were involved. All I saw on the news was cement floors, blankets, and chain link fence pens and cages.

Serious jail time. The Hague. Don't let them lie their way out of this one.

wnylib

(21,497 posts)
24. War crimes charge doesn't fit, but
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:53 AM
Nov 2020

crimes against humanity are a perfect fit.

Needs to be a very public trial and conviction in the name of justice. The US does not recognize the validity of trials at The Hague. It's better maybe that we own this one ourselves and atone for it as a nation.

Lonestarblue

(10,018 posts)
19. His crimes may not be prosecutable because they were "advice."
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:22 AM
Nov 2020

But whoever hires him for his next job needs to be boycotted if possible. The Heritage Foundation will likely find a spot for him since they hate democracy.

wnylib

(21,497 posts)
25. There were Nazi criminals who
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 09:58 AM
Nov 2020

gave advice. No excuses for being "only" the inventor of a policy and not the one to actually carry it out. What about conspiring, abetting, accomplice charges?

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
29. Wouldn't it be funny if the tRUMP Klan had to go hide out in a Central American country?
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 08:32 PM
Nov 2020

A poor one that doesn't have many conveniences and they are stuck out in the boonies in hiding, similar to what the Nazis did in South America.

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