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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:49 AM Oct 2012

Angels in America

It's actually a good analogy for all Villagers. With conservatism crumbling in the face of reality, they're trying to walk this tightrope of adopting reality-based liberal positions, but without admitting that the liberals were right. Liberals can't be right, because liberals are The Hippies Who Are Wrong and Always Lose. Even when they're right, and finally starting to win.

Liberal gay political writers are a dime a dozen, and so in a strange way we find Andrew Sullivan locked in the same kind of mortal combat over labels -- and for exactly the same reasons -- as Roy Cohn's character in "Angels In America" as he adamantly insisted -- even as he was dying of AIDS -- that he was not a "ho-mo-sex-shall".

Because, Cohn reasoned, homosexuals were nobodies; losers who had zero clout and “in 15 years cannot pass a pissant anti-discrimination bill from City Council.” And since Roy Cohn could get the President of the United States (or his wife) on the phone -- could take the man he was fucking to the White House and make Ronald Reagan smile at him and shakes his hand -- it therefore followed that Roy Cohn could not possibly be a homosexual.

That unlike every other person in his position on Earth, Roy Cohn was a heterosexual man, who fucked around with guys.

Likewise, even though Mr. Sullivan now, belatedly comes to believe much of what Liberals believe and finally deigns to notice a horde of grotesque truths about his Conservative Movement about which Liberals have been sounding the alarm for 30 years, Andrew Sullivan nonetheless looks us all straight in that eye and argues that he could not possibly be some mere Liberal.

Because in Mr. Sullivan's world, "Liberal" does not refer to a political ideology, but to an impoverishing political ghetto from which no amount of "being right about everything" will permit you to achieve escape velocity. In Mr. Sullivan's world, "Liberal" is a terrible disease that afflicts losers who do not get invited to spout their views on teevee.

Or on the cover of "Newsweek".

Mr. Sullivan regularly receives such largess, therefore he must not be a Liberal.

http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2012/10/stupid-shit-andrew-sullivan-says-ctd.html

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Angels in America (Original Post) phantom power Oct 2012 OP
Rec'd, though I don't know if it's a good analogy for *all* "Villagers" villager Oct 2012 #1
fortunately for me, it's case sensitive... phantom power Oct 2012 #4
fortunately for me, too! villager Oct 2012 #5
OTTOMH RobertEarl Oct 2012 #2
Sullivan is a fraud who has suckered a lot of 'liberals'. xchrom Oct 2012 #3
+1 HiPointDem Oct 2012 #7
Andrew Sullivan. So many reasons to dislike him, and no reasons to trust him. Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #6
+1 nt xchrom Oct 2012 #8
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. OTTOMH
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:54 AM
Oct 2012

Being a liberal means being different.

'Tis easier to just blend in and go along with the masses.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
3. Sullivan is a fraud who has suckered a lot of 'liberals'.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:56 AM
Oct 2012

We have never needed ideas from republicans like Sullivan.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Andrew Sullivan. So many reasons to dislike him, and no reasons to trust him.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:24 PM
Oct 2012

The fact that he still spouts this shite after his fake last minute contrition about his cheerleading for the Iraq invasion, his adoration of Bush and of Cheney, after he claime he'd never stop apologizing for that shit, he still continues to mount the poduim and engage in unsafe sermonizing. The single most egregious element of Sullivan's time as a panting dog for Bush's wars was his writing about the contempt he felt for those of us protesting the Iraq invasion.
Read his 'apology' for being so fucking wrong about something so important, and consider the fact that after all of that, this man still rushes to the lectern to castigate 'liberals'. It is mindnumbing self service:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2008/03/how_did_i_get_iraq_wrong_2.html

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