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please explain to me- why can't felons who have served their time vote? (Original Post) w8liftinglady Oct 2012 OP
It's a state, not a federal, matter. MADem Oct 2012 #1
Was overturned in PA JPZenger Oct 2012 #2
Only 4 states disenfranchise felons permanently frazzled Oct 2012 #3
Because former felons tend to vote democrat LynneSin Oct 2012 #4
Except in Alaska. Arctic Dave Oct 2012 #9
Hahaha Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #18
From Wikipedia, but seems a good account... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #5
Republicans probably help continue this practice because Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #6
In Texas,Home of the private prison,this is a major issue w8liftinglady Oct 2012 #7
But if you are already registered to vote you can, even from prison in Texas sammytko Oct 2012 #27
Naacp President Ben Jealous was on msm this goclark Oct 2012 #8
I'm fortunate to live in California, where I can vote with a federal prison record. NBachers Oct 2012 #10
Because many of them are Black... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #11
I don't understand the justification for this either gollygee Oct 2012 #12
Old rule. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #13
Because "inalienable" is a tricky concept to some people cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #14
In NC oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #15
They can in some of the states, but not in others. I think it's wrong to continue sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #16
and make it difficult to register again w8liftinglady Oct 2012 #17
I would call for a national movement gopiscrap Oct 2012 #19
Beats me. In my state those in prison can vote. cali Oct 2012 #20
Since I am facing a felony, I am curious also HeeBGBz Oct 2012 #21
Your state of residence. DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #23
Thank you n/t HeeBGBz Oct 2012 #24
They can in many states. Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #22
Many states allow... AzSweet Oct 2012 #25
vote government101 Oct 2012 #26
Convicted felons who have paid their debt to society should have all their civil rights restored jody Oct 2012 #28
k&r... spanone Oct 2012 #29
Probably alot of felons can vote but they don't even realize it. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #30

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
2. Was overturned in PA
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

The law in PA that forbid felons from voting was overturned by state courts several years ago. In PA, a person can vote regardless of their situation, probationary status, etc. as long as they are not actually in prison on election day.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
6. Republicans probably help continue this practice because
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:59 AM
Oct 2012

All those ex-felons would probably vote Democratic.

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
7. In Texas,Home of the private prison,this is a major issue
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:00 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/laws/effects.shtml

"As you are well aware, a person who is finally convicted of a felony is not eligible to register to vote (what is legally considered a final felony conviction is set forth in more detail under "Final Felony Convictions" below). Pursuant to Section 11.002 of the Texas Election Code (the "Code&quot , once a felon has successfully completed his or her punishment, including any term of incarceration, parole, supervision, period of probation, or has been pardoned, then that person is immediately eligible to register to vote. "

Not only is this confusing,but it sets up yet another way to block voter registration.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
27. But if you are already registered to vote you can, even from prison in Texas
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:36 PM
Oct 2012

I just sent off my mothers mail in ballot request ( she's not in prison btw) and it had a list of people who can vote by mail and prisoners was one of them.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
8. Naacp President Ben Jealous was on msm this
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:04 PM
Oct 2012

morning.
It was excellent !
A very well spoken African American young lady addressed the issue with him.
She was an ex felon- AAmericans are "surprise" abundantly affected.
It should be on video by now...it was either msnbc or Cnn.
I'll try to find it.

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
10. I'm fortunate to live in California, where I can vote with a federal prison record.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:07 PM
Oct 2012

And, believe me, I vote

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
11. Because many of them are Black...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:09 PM
Oct 2012

That is all.

No reason, no excuse to tell an American Citizen who has served his/her time that he can't vote.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
12. I don't understand the justification for this either
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:11 PM
Oct 2012

Once you've served your time, you re-enter society. At no time do you lose your citizenship. I don't think there is a valid why a felon who has served their sentence can't vote.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
14. Because "inalienable" is a tricky concept to some people
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:15 PM
Oct 2012

If Thomas Jefferson has said unalienable, which I think is the correct word, perhaps it would have fewer loopholes <joke>

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
15. In NC
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:22 PM
Oct 2012

once you've paid your debt in terms of probation, parole, and restitution, your rights are restored and you can vote. You just have to register.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
16. They can in some of the states, but not in others. I think it's wrong to continue
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:29 PM
Oct 2012

'punishment' after they have served their time.

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
19. I would call for a national movement
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:25 PM
Oct 2012

anyone convicted of a felony who has served his her time in prison, or jail and is denied the right to vote should refuse to pay any taxes or keep reciepts and call for a refund of any sales tax paid..also should protest loudly in front of state capitols and polling places!!!

HeeBGBz

(7,361 posts)
21. Since I am facing a felony, I am curious also
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:31 PM
Oct 2012

If you move to a state that allows you to vote, after being convicted in a state that doesn't, which rules do you go by?

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
23. Your state of residence.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:28 PM
Oct 2012

Under Texas law, I couldn't vote while living there. In California, I can vote but not serve on a jury (thank heavens!).

Good luck with your case.
DBH

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
22. They can in many states.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:57 PM
Oct 2012

In Alaska a felon who has served his time and any probation/ parole gets his voting rights restored upon request.

AzSweet

(102 posts)
25. Many states allow...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:32 PM
Oct 2012

...you to request your rights back after serving your time. Its a process, but worth it.A friend of mine just went through it in VA. Unfotunately, she's probably voting Repub.

 

government101

(4 posts)
26. vote
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:35 PM
Oct 2012

They are not allowed to vote because they broke the social contract and when you break the social contract all your rights are taken away. The social contract was an idea set up by John Locke and any other philosophers whose ideas are part of the framework of our Constitution. A felon infringed on someone else's rights and doesn't deserve the rights that they have therefore they are taken away.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
28. Convicted felons who have paid their debt to society should have all their civil rights restored
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:36 PM
Oct 2012

automatically.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
30. Probably alot of felons can vote but they don't even realize it.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:43 PM
Oct 2012
In one of his first acts after assuming office last year, Scott reversed former GOP governor Charlie Crist's decision to automatically restore the voting and other rights of non-violent felons who served their sentences.

Scott's action made Florida one of four states -- along with Iowa, Kentucky and Virginia -- where felons must go through additional steps before getting back their rights.

Florida now requires felons to wait at least five years (seven years, if their crime was serious) before they can apply for restoration of their civil rights, including the right to vote. The Clemency Board, which includes the governor and the three elected state Cabinet members, has up to six years to review each application individually...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/01/felons-ballot-access-florida/1607151/
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