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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:45 PM Oct 2012

I Saw A Statistic That Just Astounded Me

I don't remember the exact numbers but it was a Gallup survey that indicated "investors" favor Romney by a large margin. Talk about people voting against their own interest. The market has doubled under Obama and the market does much, much better under Democrats.

It reminds me of when I was in college and one of my professors was a stalwart Democrat and successful investor. It was kind of a running joke among the other professors how he was outwardly conservative in his demeanor bur liberal in his politics.

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I Saw A Statistic That Just Astounded Me (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 OP
Investors think about one thing... joycejnr Oct 2012 #1
I'm Not A Huge Investor DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #3
Agreed, but as I suggested, the investor class has no monopoly on brains. n/t joycejnr Oct 2012 #5
Let's Flush This Out Some More DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #6
You nailed it... joycejnr Oct 2012 #7
But I Would Think They Like To Make Money DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #8
As an ex-corporate finance guy... joycejnr Oct 2012 #11
What if the Capital Gains tax was increased to 25% Bandit Oct 2012 #9
I Rather Pay 25% On A $100,000.00 Capital Gain Than Nothing On A $2,000.00 Capital Gain DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #10
Conservative in demeanor, but liberal in politics........... mrmpa Oct 2012 #2
Dr. Jervey Had A Crew Cut And Always Wore A Tie DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #4

joycejnr

(326 posts)
1. Investors think about one thing...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012

...the elimination or reduction of capital gains taxes, and Romney as a member of the investor class is their boy. Sure, it's a single-issue knee jerk response, but who has proved that investors are any brighter than anyone else - especially compared to the Conservative sheeplets.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. I'm Not A Huge Investor
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:52 PM
Oct 2012

But if your holdings are increasing at 10% by year which is the average gain under Democratic administrations as opposed to .04% per year which is the average gain under Republican administrations I would think those gain would dwarf any increase in the capital gains tax.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. Let's Flush This Out Some More
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:16 PM
Oct 2012

I buy a basket of stocks worth $100,000.00 when Obama was elected. It's now worth $200,000.00 . I sell it and pay my 15% capital gains tax of $15,000.00. I netted $85,000.00 . That's pretty good.

I bought the same basket of stocks worth $100,000.00 when a Republican president was elected. It's now worth $102,000.00. I sell it and pay my 15% capital gains tax of $300.00 I netted $1,700.00. That sucks. I should have bough a Certificate Of Deposit.

Am I missing something?

joycejnr

(326 posts)
7. You nailed it...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

...perhaps I should put it this way: as a former exec with Shearson/American Express I got to see a host of CEOs, investors, and other businessmen, and damn few were the sharpest pencils in the box - they were just the most driven. Sandy Weill, may the good Lord call him to his arms soon, was an exception. He was the smartest exec I met, hands down.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. But I Would Think They Like To Make Money
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:16 PM
Oct 2012

I'm a Poli Sci major. Those guys went to Wharton, Harvard Business, and Stanford Business. Surely they can look at an historical analysis.

joycejnr

(326 posts)
11. As an ex-corporate finance guy...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

...I had the "opportunity" to work with these dudes, including the #2 in his class at Wharton. They are whizzes at exploiting laws and regulations to increase the bottom line, but that sort of info ain't rocket science. It's easy stuff, and they usually miss the forest for the trees when it comes to long-term self interests.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
9. What if the Capital Gains tax was increased to 25%
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:16 PM
Oct 2012

Still less than it was before Bush* I believe.. I think it was at 28% during the Clinton years. anyway a 6% difference between Democrats and Republicans right now because of how the economy is handled, but add 10% and means they may just have to pay a little more to live in the "Best Country in the World" as Republicans are so often heard to say..

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
2. Conservative in demeanor, but liberal in politics...........
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:51 PM
Oct 2012

this could have been said about me. Back in the '80's I was a University Police Officer and out of uniform I was (still am) a conservative dresser. Was having a conversation with a co-worker (political in nature), when I said something "liberal", he was shocked, and said "I thought", I said "you thought wrong."

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. Dr. Jervey Had A Crew Cut And Always Wore A Tie
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:54 PM
Oct 2012

I think he was one of the few professors I had that wore a tie.

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