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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:44 AM Nov 2020

Military wife accused in GOP voter fraud claim (in NV) speaks out

https://news3lv.com/news/local/military-spouse-accused-in-gop-claim-of-voter-fraud-speaks-out
"We are also confident that there are thousands of people whose votes have been counted that have moved out of Clark County during the pandemic,” said Adam Laxalt, Nevada’s former Attorney General and Co-Chair of the Trump Re-Election campaign.

...

"My husband and I have both been accused of fraud,” said Amy Rose. “We take our duties as citizens very seriously, and it’s just a shock to see that this accusation had been made without any basis in fact."

Rose, a former ACLU lawyer and eight-year Henderson resident, now lives in Davis, California. Her family moved two years ago as her husband, a major in the Air Force, chases his PhD in aerospace engineering. His schooling is paid for by the Air Force.

According to Rose, if you are in a state on orders for the military, families don’t have to change their residency. She says she and her husband's ability to vote in their home state is a state and federal process that families secure with the county registrar.


republican "respect" for the military is, at best, lip service.
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Military wife accused in GOP voter fraud claim (in NV) speaks out (Original Post) Roland99 Nov 2020 OP
They sure picked the wrong family to poke exboyfil Nov 2020 #1
The Wife Might, But I Doubt The Major Would COL Mustard Nov 2020 #16
Good point exboyfil Nov 2020 #17
The fact that he voted Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #28
As long as he is not in uniform tinymontgomery Nov 2020 #33
Yep. A member of my family who is in the military DURHAM D Nov 2020 #2
Military families throughout the country maintain their original home domicile when assigned or hlthe2b Nov 2020 #7
Yep. My brother was career Navy. wnylib Nov 2020 #8
Illustrative of problems coming from fewer and fewer Americans with connection to the military... hlthe2b Nov 2020 #9
I wish some reporter would ask how exboyfil Nov 2020 #3
I guess because tRump "LIVES" on the "Golf Course" he can claim Mar Lago as a residence. TigressDem Nov 2020 #6
My late father was a 20-year US Army veteran, and I know that he Tanuki Nov 2020 #4
The real problem is STUPID. The REICH Wing does NOT KNOW the ACTUAL Process. TigressDem Nov 2020 #5
You know, that is so true moose65 Nov 2020 #15
K&R ffr Nov 2020 #10
It's always been lip service.... paleotn Nov 2020 #11
People who do technical service work maintain their old home town address for their mail LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #12
I read this as a Military wife who's a GOP voter was being accused of committing voter fraud. Ligyron Nov 2020 #13
This is True for CONUS and Overseas Assignments. djacq Nov 2020 #14
I was in Air Force stationed in Dayton, OH and my official state of residence was California. iluvtennis Nov 2020 #18
what a reach. barbtries Nov 2020 #19
"republican "respect" for the military is, at best, lip service." Escurumbele Nov 2020 #20
That's their basis for fraud? Military stationed away from home? liberal N proud Nov 2020 #21
It has always been that way. Woodwizard Nov 2020 #22
"without any basis in fact."... lame54 Nov 2020 #23
This is absolutely true. Similarly... MrModerate Nov 2020 #24
When I was still in, it was called HOR, Home of Record. Baked Potato Nov 2020 #25
Not only is their "respect" merely "lip service," BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #26
I was living in Massachusetts when I enlisted in the army. marie999 Nov 2020 #27
Adam Laxalt is a venomous snake in the grass Leith Nov 2020 #29
The bottom line is to not vote in 2 places TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #30
The established rule for absentee military families is at least 50 years. IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2020 #31
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #32

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
1. They sure picked the wrong family to poke
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:47 AM
Nov 2020

A former ACLU lawyer and an Air Force major getting his PhD. Let's see if they would like to star in an ad.

COL Mustard

(5,933 posts)
16. The Wife Might, But I Doubt The Major Would
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:00 PM
Nov 2020

He wouldn't want to be in any type of video referencing his official capacity, nor should he be asked.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
17. Good point
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:04 PM
Nov 2020

It is very important that our military not be seen to take sides in political differences. Civilian oversight of the military is a bedrock principle that should never be compromised. In theory he could appear in civilian clothes and not reference his duty status like any other citizen, but it would be too much to ask.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
2. Yep. A member of my family who is in the military
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:49 AM
Nov 2020

still votes in his home state even though he has not lived there for over 30 years.

hlthe2b

(102,398 posts)
7. Military families throughout the country maintain their original home domicile when assigned or
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:08 AM
Nov 2020

deployed elsewhere. Should they get stopped for not having state vehicle tags, all they have to do is show their military id.

This is not new. It is not an isolated situation. It is law.

wnylib

(21,633 posts)
8. Yep. My brother was career Navy.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

His wife was (retired now) a hairdresser. She could use her hairdressing license any place they were sent to. Just had to renew it when due, in her home state where it was originally issued.

hlthe2b

(102,398 posts)
9. Illustrative of problems coming from fewer and fewer Americans with connection to the military...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:39 AM
Nov 2020

which I would bet is behind the ignorance of his election lawyers and everyone in the WH.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
3. I wish some reporter would ask how
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:52 AM
Nov 2020

Trump can establish residency in Florida to vote when he was elected to President while a resident of NYC. In the military you have the choice of claiming your residency at induction or at any location in which you lived during your time in the military. Trump lives in the WH. It is his primary residence. He is more than welcome to change his voter residency to DC (or continue to vote in NYC).

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
6. I guess because tRump "LIVES" on the "Golf Course" he can claim Mar Lago as a residence.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:00 AM
Nov 2020

EVEN THOUGH he pays taxes on it as a Business. SHADY to be sure. HIS vote is certainly more suspect than the military votes he is disrespecting.


https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/nation/mar-a-lago-is-taxed-as-a-private-club-not-a-residence-so-can-trump/article_690a5d51-c456-5df2-827e-240c5b1c50af.html

Tanuki

(14,923 posts)
4. My late father was a 20-year US Army veteran, and I know that he
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

maintained a legal West Virginia voting address all that time despite living in the South Pacific, Germany, Japan, Panama, and various stateside assignments. I thought this sort of thing was common knowledge, but I suppose a leader like Trump is so unfamiliar with military service and what it entails that it strikes him as fishy and in any event only done by "losers and chumps".

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
5. The real problem is STUPID. The REICH Wing does NOT KNOW the ACTUAL Process.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:55 AM
Nov 2020

People at the TOP do, but they are intimating that PERFECTLY LEGAL ways of VOTING are NEFARIOUS.

In one way, it makes sense that you vote in the state you live in, but if there is a legal exception for military and they follow that process, explanation should be made and then folks should LAY OFF. Geeze.

Accusations are being made by figurative FLAME THROWER and even if they are FALSE, the damage is done.




moose65

(3,168 posts)
15. You know, that is so true
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:00 PM
Nov 2020

Throughout all of this, many Republicans have acted like you can just print a ballot online and copy it 1,000 times, then send it by mail and all of them are counted. They have no idea how many safeguards are in place to prevent stuff like that.

In my very small county (fewer than 60,000 people total), during the primary there were two ballots that were stuck together. At the end of the day, the number of ballots given out didn't match the number of people who had voted, so they opened the machine and found the extra, unmarked ballot and took it out. Little things like that happen all the time, and their is a process for dealing with it. There's no fraud or dirty tricks. Those who administer elections know what they're doing.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
11. It's always been lip service....
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:42 AM
Nov 2020

Like the morons with yellow ribbons during the W years. Tell you what. If you really love the troops, how about NOT sending them to risk and possibly lose their lives on a fools errand? Just a thought.

The military and those who serve are just political pawns to these scum bags. I hate these people. I hate them with the heat of a thousand suns.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
12. People who do technical service work maintain their old home town address for their mail
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:44 AM
Nov 2020

and other needs. I used to travel for work and had to have an address for insurance, really everything. I would get home every year or so. It is pretty damn common.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
13. I read this as a Military wife who's a GOP voter was being accused of committing voter fraud.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Nov 2020

Guess I assumed a Military wife would support the GOP and also be willing to commit voter fraud, lol.

Oh well, so much for tradition.

djacq

(1,634 posts)
14. This is True for CONUS and Overseas Assignments.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:59 AM
Nov 2020

My wife and I voted as a California resident while at

Andrews AFB, MD

iluvtennis

(19,880 posts)
18. I was in Air Force stationed in Dayton, OH and my official state of residence was California.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:26 PM
Nov 2020

I always voted absentee for California, so I can validate what this military wife says.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
19. what a reach.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020

if they could prove they also voted in CA they might have a case, but this is pathetic.

Escurumbele

(3,406 posts)
20. "republican "respect" for the military is, at best, lip service."
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:43 PM
Nov 2020

It is as good as their religious beliefs, ZERO. They use religion, the military, family values, abortion, etc. as a tool for the weak of mind, but they don't believe on any of it. I would like for someone to conduct an investigation on republican abortions, I can safely bet there are many more than from Democrats or any other group.

Hypocrites...

liberal N proud

(60,346 posts)
21. That's their basis for fraud? Military stationed away from home?
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:52 PM
Nov 2020

That is not only weak, but disrespectful to all military families

Woodwizard

(847 posts)
22. It has always been that way.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:53 PM
Nov 2020

When I was stationed in Hawaii my absentee ballot was from my native NY. What a bunch of petty losers.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
24. This is absolutely true. Similarly...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:08 PM
Nov 2020

If you're resident in a foreign country on a given day, you're eligible to vote (by mail) at the precinct that is your home of record in the states. These things are not new, it's just that Republicans are so desperate.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
25. When I was still in, it was called HOR, Home of Record.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:12 PM
Nov 2020

It’s usually the state where you entered service and the state you will be paid to return to when you get out (ETS). You can change your HOR while in the service, It is not even close to Rocket Science lol.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
26. Not only is their "respect" merely "lip service,"
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:21 PM
Nov 2020

but they don't bother to do even the most cursory research. The laws surrounding that particular situation Ms Rose described can't possibly be so arcane and dense that it can't be found.

They also chose a rather poor would-be victim, although I guess you can't really expect them to dig into a specific target before they start painting in broad strokes. Googling is hard. A former ACLU lawyer. I wonder if someone with that on their CV would know their rights and obligations? Ya think?

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
27. I was living in Massachusetts when I enlisted in the army.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:25 PM
Nov 2020

For four years I paid it my state income tax.

Leith

(7,813 posts)
29. Adam Laxalt is a venomous snake in the grass
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

He has ridden his grandfather's name (former governor and senator Paul Laxalt) since he was born. He is stupid for hire to any rethug, nothing more.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,220 posts)
30. The bottom line is to not vote in 2 places
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 04:03 PM
Nov 2020

If their permanent residence is in NV, they can still vote in NV. Trump's permanent residence is in FL, even though he's currently in DC most of the time.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
31. The established rule for absentee military families is at least 50 years.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 07:13 PM
Nov 2020

My favorite elementary teacher 50 years ago was a navy wife. They lived off-base near me. They had lived around on Navy bases. I asked one day why her license plate was still from the DC area. I was interested in government then and was curious. She explained to me that they expected after two or three years her husband would be transferred back to Washington where he would finish his career. Nope. He retired from Great Lakes her after 25 years. They never became Illinois voters. Never got Illinois license plates. Never voted here.

Thanks to citizens like Amy Rose for her and her husband's service. Apologies for the idiots who have no clue. And Dumpster Donnie is at the top of that list.

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