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Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:03 AM Nov 2020

Is Trump Really The Best They Have?

I would think a party would want to quickly move on from an impeached, one term loser, admitted sexual harasser, owes a billion dollar failed businessman, 200K killed on his watch, 75 million rejection slip, bloated fat virus infected orange piece of crap.

because obviously there must be way more qualified acceptable high character leaders in the gop ready to step up and take control??

i would think you could go down to any homeless shelter and pick out someone at random and find a person with a crushing emotional story about hard times and that person would be WAY more qualified to head the GOP as would all those people. Any healthcare frontline worker. Any minimum wage hard working american.

150 million people on the right, 70 million of them who voted. and he really is the BEST that they can come up with?

are there no more William F buckleys in the party? is that era long gone? thinking right wingers? even though the shit they were thinking about was mostly wrong??

its all just worship now? like a mega church? maga church? is that where trump is headed a media church religion cult empire?

im hoping more to prison myself.






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Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
1. The Republicans don't send their best people. They send criminals, rapists, racists, people w/
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:07 AM
Nov 2020

problems who bring those problems with them.

I assume some of them are good people.



duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. I think the choice was made by putin, after he had republicans so compromised they had no choice.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:22 AM
Nov 2020

trump was just a puppet he had complete control of from trumps extreme debt, and criminal acts they've both been involved in. republicans took putins help , and money, along with trump, leaving them all compromised to him. When they all become exposed for it all, all hell will break loose, and that may be coming very soon.

Fyrefox

(300 posts)
3. Trumpism will abide...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:27 AM
Nov 2020

The fact that Trump won in excess of 70 million votes and successfully intimidated all opposition within his party indicates that Trump was wildly successful to a party that only values winning. Trump's personality cult played well to the stupid, the mean-spirited, and the grossly misguided. Republicans will find someone else like Trump who is marginally more refined and presentable, and can better the instruction that Trump gave them in how to play to people desperate to embrace an autocrat whose values they accept as their own...

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
4. Republicans created a monster and then discovered they couldn't control him.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:45 AM
Nov 2020

His popularity with Republican voters has made it impossible for them to oppose him without losing their own seats.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
9. This is true, but the first monster was the mob of misinformed voters.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:40 AM
Nov 2020

30 years of radio and TV cultivated this motley crew of supporters divorced from reality who were told not to believe the media by other media. Once the tether to reality was severed, they could be told anything and believe it if it came from their preferred outlets, climate change isn't real, Hillary shot Vince Foster, etc. The underlying purpose of all this is to cut this segment off from ever considering voting Democratic even in their own interests. You can't get more than half the country to take to the streets to keep the top marginal tax rate low.

In the small minds of these programmed voters, the image of the perfect candidate formed and it was not John McCain or Mitt Romney, they were not nasty enough and treated Democrats as legitimate opponents. The astounding thing to me is that their perfect candidate exists in the form of Trump. He is not Frankenstein, he is the Bride of Frankenstein.

Yeehah

(4,587 posts)
5. The republican party has become a fascist organization dedicated to destroying the USA
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:54 AM
Nov 2020

and replacing it with a dictatorship. They will find a more charismatic leader and possibly succeed if the rest of the USA does not realize we are at war already to save this country.

klook

(12,155 posts)
6. +1.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:03 AM
Nov 2020

Fortunately for us, most of the other potential standard-bearers waiting in the wings seem to be almost as incompetent as Trump. And none of them I’m aware of have his dark malevolent combination of innate marketing savvy and ability to manipulate crowds.

The truly scary thing is that more than 70 million Americans have rings in their noses and would still be willing to follow a “savior” who’ll promise them a return to an imaginary past version of a white bread America where uneducated white people had decent-paying jobs, everybody stayed in line, and their kids went to all-white schools.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
7. William F. Buckley
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:04 AM
Nov 2020

I think if Buckley were alive today, he would probably be among the misfits of the Lincoln Project. I can't imagine him rubbing elbows with Trump at all, and I don't think he would have held his tongue about Trump's faults. Buckley certainly couldn't have been a Democrat, but I don't think he would have been any more at home in today's GOP. Buckley would have appreciated Biden's decent-ness, especially in comparison to the living abomination of Trump.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
8. William F. Buckley was one of the people who sent the Republicans down this path
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:04 AM
Nov 2020

He was one of the ones who could not tolerate an Eisenhower-style Republican Party that accepted the broad outlines of the New Deal. He and his fellow Movement Conservatives very deliberately moved to wipe out the middle ground and radicalize the Republicans into an expressly conservative party.

He gleefully helped orchestrate the extermination of Rockefeller Republicans as a force within that party.

He was as much a zealot as Newt Gingrich. He just comes off as more thoughtful because he operated in an era where he needed to sound that way in order to not be dismissed as just another ranting crank.

PCIntern

(25,554 posts)
11. Thank you for saying this
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:44 AM
Nov 2020

I dare those who speak well of him to watch even one season of Firing Line. You won’t be able to stop throwing up.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
10. It's not about qualifications.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:41 AM
Nov 2020

It's about popularity. It's about authoritarianism. It's about "owning the Libs."

tanyev

(42,564 posts)
15. Any genuine high character leaders they had have left or been sidelined for a long time.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:38 AM
Nov 2020

It is surprising they aren't more eager to dump Trump in exchange for someone who can successfully present a veneer of high character.

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