Thought I'd pass this on. Am I making too much of this? October Surprise or Bullshit?

[busterbrown]

Last edited Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:54 PM - Edit history (1)

I think another attempt by right wing to see what sticks.
However, we shouldn't ignore...... need to get right in their lying faces!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/02/1138848/-AP-confirms-October-Surprise

[Hey Jude]

1. It depends, how much are you making of this from hand wringing and pearl clutching

Markos Moulitsas Zúniga's questionable website?

[cbdo2007]

2. Considering your post doesn't include any actual content and only a link...I'm calling BS.

Care to post what the actual surprise is or are you just looking for blind hits?

[busterbrown]

11. I'm new to this. Did you click on?

They are going to blame O. for the lack of Security.

Listen these guys are fucking nuts...What they did to Holder was horrendous. Right wing
media held on to this story forever even till this day. They are gonna milk this story
until election day and thats what pisses me off.

[blogslut]

3. Let em try

There will be incredible blowback. The elephants have lost their ability to inject fear into the majority of the populace.

[Motown_Johnny]

4. HA! If they want to debate foreign policy then bring it on.

Pres. Obama will destroy Rmoney on the subject.


Don't worry about it. They have no credibility at all.

[Volaris]

43. I tend to agree...If D. Issa is the one running this particular ring of the election circus,

I don't think the majority of the media will run with it. Any cred he had with them he lost when Fast and Furious blew up in his face, and Hillary isn't exactly known for backing down from bullshit-artists like Daryl. It's an issue that I have no doubt the Pres., his SoS, and campaign teams know back to front, ('cause they were THERE) and they won't get caught off guard...let me put it another way--expect Team Obama to take this knife away from Romney, and stab him in the fucking heart with it. As always, I could be wrong, but I expect this to be a non-issue, just another attempt to throw anything...ANYTHING at the wall to see if it's made out of sticky-stuff.

[TDale313]

5. Will the GOP try to...

Make political hay out of this right before the election? Of course. Politicizing National Security is what they do. Will it work? I'm doubtful this time.

[Viking12]

6. Yawn

[bluestate10]

7. Republicans telegraphed their bullshit.

I doubt democrats will get caught by surprise. Look, if Romney does poorly in the debate and goes down by double digits, republicans are going to throw everything, including the kitchen sink at President Obama. Republican efforts will dig a deeper hole for themselves. The Obama truth team is firing on all cylinders, look at what they did with Romney's bullshit about being tougher on China than the President, the truth team has essentially massacred that asshole.

[riderinthestorm]

8. Blind links don't go over very well here. You might include some information about what your linking

Some (rural) folks are still on dial-up, some won't go to dailykos, some won't ever click on a blind link. If you want conversation on your OP, its best to include some info.



Welcome to DU!

[busterbrown]

13. Hey Thanks..... I had no idea! New to computers.

Got so far behind the technology curve that I felt I could
end up living my life without one.
My friend grabbed me one day, forced me into his car and then to Apple.
Entered 2012 technology and loving it.

[obamanut2012]

38. Then please edit your OP

[Avalux]

9. Ohhh...this is about Libya. YAWN.

The GOP really thinks they'll succeed in making Obama into Carter and Romney in to Reagan. They are pathetic.

[gkhouston]

10. It's an effort to create a flap that won't have the desired effect.

Look, if people weren't standing outside the White House with torches and pitchforks when Bush sent troops to combat without adequate armor, what makes you think the sky is going to fall over whether or not an embassy had enough Marines?

[mrJJ]

12. US News & World Reports has the same Story

House Committee: Security Requests Denied in Libya


http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2012/10/02/house-committee-security-requests-denied-in-libya

[gkhouston]

21. Who denied the requests.... and why? My guess is that their budget is simply too tight to protect

all the hot spots.

[DonViejo]

42. GOP's State Dept. Budget cuts Partly to Blame for 9/11 Libya Attack

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251115476

[progressivebydesign]

14. Lol. Not intimating anything, but WHY is it only low number posters who have posted this today???

Just curious... another DUer with 50 posts just posted this as well. Y'all should coordinate this stuff better.

[busterbrown]

15. Yea you are. But thats o.k.

I found this site a couple of months ago, I'm rather new to all this and
found a good amount of paranoia when I first began. But you know what? We are dealing with
such sleaze bags that I suppose we need to maintain vigilance.

By the way, someone just posted a U.S. News and World link siting the same story.
I hope everyone is right that republicans one again are grabbing at straws.

[Jennicut]

18. Welcome to DU. I think it is Repubs trying to make this into something

when there is nothing there.

And we get suspicious of low count posters sometimes. I had a low post racist troll try to interact with me earlier today.
But I understand that you are just concerned. The GOP have already called for Susan Rice to resign but she said what she knew with a caveat that is was the best info she had at the time. There was no deliberately trying to lie.

[busterbrown]

16. There is such a thing as being new. Thanks for the nice welcome.

I didn't even realize that number of posts were linked to comments.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. You're a troll

Have fun, troll.

[busterbrown]

24. Tell me exactly why.....Please

Nothing worse than one who accuses without the slightest bit
of evidence..

[DonViejo]

31. Relax Busterbrown.

There's a faction here on DU that is not dissimilar from the snobbery of Romney's beliefs about "the 47%". They prefer to rant, rave, insult and set up false standards of what qualifies a member to be a "good" participant here at DU.

[busterbrown]

36. Thanks for the heads up. I like this site a lot. I learn most of my new talking points here.......

Talking points which I can shove up their republican lying asses!

[alcibiades_mystery]

45. 30 Days Have Taught You Much

You guys should set up a support group.

[obamanut2012]

40. lol

[October]

28. You posted and asked a question. Lots of responses here, but you haven't responded.

Have you gained any insight?

[pinboy3niner]

29. Excellent question!

[busterbrown]

30. Seriously, I have. I really was serious.

The thing is Issa and his idiot republican friends on oversight are so desperate that they are
gonna try anything and see if it sticks. Look what they tried with Holder.
I like to be pro active against this kind of shit and get immediate feedback for counter attacks.
D.U. is great with breaking news and I learn a lot from the posts.

[Sugarcoated]

19. This is actually looking like it could be toxic for Republican's

As Nancy Pelosi pointed out today on CNN, it was the Republican Congress that refused to give the State Dept the money requested to do things like fortify and improve embassies, hire security, etc. I think this could be deadly for the Repubs.

[Gabi Hayes]

20. somebody started a thread based on this interesting salon article by the estimable Craig Unger,

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/01/gops_october_surprise/

who wrote House of Bush, House of Saud

if you want to see their game plan, it's there, spearheaded, apparently, by Rove and Dan Senor

[Sugarcoated]

22. It's gonna backfire.

Repubs voted to defund the State Department. Takes some brass!

[busterbrown]

34. Thanks. This was helpful.

I say we need to push back as fast as possible and shove this improvised
bullshit back down their throats!

[Sugarcoated]

44. When it comes up in the debates

Obama and/or Biden will hit back. CNN has picked up on it. I'm not worried in the least . . . the Republican party in 2012 is a mess.

[spanone]

23. fuck darrell issa and his committees....

[magical thyme]

25. grasping at straws...

Romney's first attempt to make political hay out of the murder of Ambassador Stevens was a massive FAIL. So they've waited a few weeks for his embarrassment to blow over and now the surrogates try again.

Dumb move. Just reminds us of Romney smirking over the grave of a true hero and patriot.

[pinboy3niner]

26. Answer: BULLSHIT with a capital BULLSHIT

Issa uses the Fox News 'sumsay' attack, saying he has anonymous sources whom he will not identify.

The facts: Ambassador Stevens knew more about the security situation in Libya than just about anybody. He planned a trip to Benghazi. With all of his intimate knowledge of the situation, and with the latest intel at his disposal, he went forward with the trip and did not decide to cancel it--even though the consulate's temporary quarters did not provide ideal security.

Issa is doubling down on a failed strategy...

Posted in GD by ProSense:

Poll: Obama Still Holds Decisive Lead Over Romney On Foreign Policy | Mitt Romney’s campaign, Republicans and their conservative allies at Fox News have been making a lot of noise the past few weeks claiming that the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya on Sept. 11 means President Obama is weak on foreign policy. But a new poll conducted on Sept. 24-27 suggests that the attacks aren’t gaining any traction. According to a new Politico/George Washington University poll, 52 percent of likely voters said Obama would “better handle” foreign policy compared to Romney’s 40 percent. The result is almost unchanged from when the same poll asked the question back in May and it mirrors what other polling has found this campaign season.

UPDATE

A new Washington Post poll conducted Sept. 26-29 found that Obama has a 14 point lead over Romney on which candidate Americans trust more to do a better job handling terrorism and a five point edge on trust in handling international affairs.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/01/933441/poll-obama-still-holds-decisive-lead-over-romney-on-foreign-policy/


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021445663

[budkin]

27. Just another "Fast and Furious" witchhunt by Issa

Not going anywhere

[Ikonoklast]

33. Aren't you the cutest little thing?

So full of concern, posting the latest Talking Point.

[busterbrown]

37. and most of the guys here have been very helpful...

I'm a nervous nelly and want answers fast so I can blast back
at these shits!

[Honeycombe8]

35. A hearing on the Libya events sounds like something Issa would do. But I think it would backfire.

Even if they do that, and even if it affects Obama negatively, I STRONGLY feel there would be a worse backlash on the Republicans. It would be so obvious that they're only doing it to affect the election.

[madrchsod]

39. issa can have his meeting but....

no one will show up but cspan. i checked this afternoon and so far issa has`t scheduled.