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Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:51 PM Nov 2020

PA Senate Majority Leader Starts to Backtrack on EVs Going to Popular Vote Winner

I think it’s happening, and it’s terrifying.

With that said, I think the end result is the electoral college not being ratified and Acing President Pelosi, followed swiftly by President Biden, being sworn in ok January 21st, but the fact they are willing to entertain this stuff should be criminal it and if itself.

The sentence for any elected official who is party to an attempt to overturn an election should start at life in prison. That should be the absolute minimum.


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PA Senate Majority Leader Starts to Backtrack on EVs Going to Popular Vote Winner (Original Post) Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 OP
Told you Republican "word" doesn't mean shit durablend Nov 2020 #1
More debunked BS n/t Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2020 #2
Show me where him adding the "in normal circumstances" caveat has been debunked Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #6
Please post the debunking link- seems like a well-researched article to me Alhena Nov 2020 #7
Here Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2020 #11
We just need to assure them civil war is a certainty if they do this. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2020 #3
I don't see how there won't be a coup attempt of some sort. David__77 Nov 2020 #4
THIS: Mike 03 Nov 2020 #8
Not going to entertain rumors Dem2 Nov 2020 #5
Fear and lies bdamomma Nov 2020 #20
Another point- Dems control the Wisconsin and PA Supreme Courts, which would enforce Alhena Nov 2020 #9
Who said, "The road to fascism is lined with people telling you that you're Mike 03 Nov 2020 #10
This! nt mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #12
+ 1 more Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #14
Electoral collage? Wednesdays Nov 2020 #13
Haha, good spot. Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #15
The PA legislature doesn't pick the electors. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #16
BS. 100% canNOT happen. canNOT change rules/laws AFTER an election has occurred Roland99 Nov 2020 #17
It's against the law in PA... 2naSalit Nov 2020 #18
Biden's margin of victory in Pennsylvania expands to nearly 49,000 votes greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #19
If they do this, the Civil War starts TeamPooka Nov 2020 #21
There's already too much violence in PA. I can't imagine how much damage would be lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #22
"Normal circumstances" meaning when the Republican candidate gets more votes gratuitous Nov 2020 #23

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,808 posts)
11. Here
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 01:03 PM
Nov 2020
https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/electors

Who selects the electors?

Choosing each State's electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election. Second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State's electors by casting their ballots.

Now, can you please show me where the Georgia legislature will choose the electors, rather than the Democratic and Republican parties, as outlined in the US Constitution?

David__77

(23,418 posts)
4. I don't see how there won't be a coup attempt of some sort.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:54 PM
Nov 2020

I think that a pro-democracy, anti-coup alliance/mobilization is definitely called for. The stakes must be made very high, that a coup will lead to the complete and total destruction of the US economically and politically.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
8. THIS:
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:56 PM
Nov 2020
a coup will lead to the complete and total destruction of the US economically and politically

Alhena

(3,030 posts)
9. Another point- Dems control the Wisconsin and PA Supreme Courts, which would enforce
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:58 PM
Nov 2020

the state laws giving the legislators no role in elections.

Yes, SCOTUS could overrule them, but I just don't see there being 5 votes for that even from this court - it would literally be the end of American democracy.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
10. Who said, "The road to fascism is lined with people telling you that you're
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:58 PM
Nov 2020

overreacting"?

It's always "farfetched" until afterwards, when people start telling you it was "obvious all along."

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
18. It's against the law in PA...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 01:46 PM
Nov 2020

They would have had to select a new process prior to the election as the law states. They would be changing the law after the election which is not allowed and would be contested in court and they would lose.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
19. Biden's margin of victory in Pennsylvania expands to nearly 49,000 votes
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 01:50 PM
Nov 2020

Trump in danger of falling below 49% of the PA vote.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
22. There's already too much violence in PA. I can't imagine how much damage would be
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 02:06 PM
Nov 2020

done. It would make portland look like a test-run.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. "Normal circumstances" meaning when the Republican candidate gets more votes
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 02:10 PM
Nov 2020

We really need to break this tacit assumption that only Republicans are allowed to govern, and that any Democratic interregnum is illegitimate, except insofar as Democrats do what Republicans want them to do.

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