RYAN CAUGHT ON TAPE: 30% of Americans Want Welfare

[Tx4obama]

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney and his running mate, Paul Ryan, share a similarly dim view of a very large portion of Americans, according to previously unreported remarks by Ryan. Both believe that many of their fellow citizens are dependent on government and have no motivation to improve their lives -- but they disagree over the precise number.

Romney's estimate, famously, is 47 percent. For Ryan, it's 30 percent.

"Seventy percent of Americans want the American dream. They believe in the American idea. Only 30 percent want their welfare state," Ryan said. "Before too long, we could become a society where the net majority of Americans are takers, not makers."

Ryan's comments were delivered as part of his keynote address at The American Spectator's 2011 Robert L. Bartley Gala Dinner, which the magazine posted online. A reader tipped HuffPost to Ryan's speech, given in November -- six months before Romney's videotaped remarks.

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Full article and VIDEO here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/paul-ryan-30-percent-welfare-state_n_1933730.html

[msongs]

1. not a nice thing to say about the generals and admirals nt

[central scrutinizer]

2. Maybe they can split the difference

Romney/Ryan: 38.5% of Americans are parasites and we don't care about them since they won't vote for us.

[SDjack]

7. Maybe their counting errors are substantial, and the

true number of moochers is 47% + 30% = 77%.

[central scrutinizer]

11. Good catch, but what about the margin of error?

might be 22% meaning that the number could be as high as 99% are moochers. So the top 1% are the only non-parasites.

[Heather MC]

3. Rev Al Sharpten is going to talk about in a few mins

[wtmusic]

4. Wonder how he comes up with 30%

Prolly made it up on the way to the lectern.

[MichiganVote]

5. Well there ya' go. Proof the economy is getting better. Down from 47%

[tk2kewl]

6. .

[porphyrian]

8. The poor want welfare, women want abortions and everyone wants their money.

Ignorant, delusional, paranoid - the 2012 Republican party.

[gollygee]

9. I know he hasn't gone and interviewed people on welfare to see how they feel

or he'd realize that it isn't such a great time and people don't enjoy it. So I think he just pulled that number out of his ass.

[Enrique]

10. I explain the math here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021417756

Romney would be ok if he had said 28.6%
The problem with "47%" is that it is clear that it includes white people. Otherwise the comment would be perfectly fine. Us libs might object, but the media would yawn and the GOP, rather than distance themselves, would embrace the comment with gusto.

This is one area where people like Newt and Rick Santorum are more savvy than Mitt, they know all about what I'm talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

Black or African American 12.6%
Hispanic or Latino 16.0%

[DisabledAmerican]

12. see this is why Drudge has to trump up a tape to

Come on people they can't let their golden boy Ryan go down now. It explains why drudge is doing everything can to change the subject the Ryan tape must hurt bad.