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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:25 PM Oct 2012

How Should The President Respond To Romney's FEIGNED Empathy Approach?

Romney is probably going to answer each question posed by Jim Lehrer by looking directly into the camera and mentioning the name of a soldier, a fireman, a mom, etc.

He'll address each of them, saying what he wants to do to improve their lives (after he falsely tells them how the president's policies had hurt them).

We're going to hear a lot of:

"I met with John G, a soldier who fought in Iraq, who lives in Ohio, and has been out or work."

"I met with Jane S, a mom, with two kids, from Florida, who blah blah blah."

Now the question I have is how does President Obama respond to this [font size="3"]feigned[/font] empathy approach?





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How Should The President Respond To Romney's FEIGNED Empathy Approach? (Original Post) napkinz Oct 2012 OP
Tell him to put his money where his mouth is. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #1
I think the President should look into the camera too ... napkinz Oct 2012 #3
+1. Not only is that what he should do, I think it's what he will do. n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #9
So do I. napkinz Oct 2012 #11
Not a damn thing. If Romney really does that, he's going to sink himself. Avalux Oct 2012 #2
I assume the president's team is preparing for this approach ... napkinz Oct 2012 #5
I disagree. Obama should not follow Romney down that rabbit hole. n/t Avalux Oct 2012 #15
so what would you suggest he do instead? napkinz Oct 2012 #17
Like I said, he should do nothing. Avalux Oct 2012 #34
Agree. Xipe Totec Oct 2012 #36
Yes it has. Avalux Oct 2012 #38
"Jane S, was she the one you told to call 411 after she lost everything to a tornado?" n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #4
that's the message he has to get across but napkinz Oct 2012 #7
he ignores it of course. what do you want him to do? tell him he's faking it? cali Oct 2012 #6
well he does have to respond to it napkinz Oct 2012 #8
It depends. He should point out that Romney's policies. cali Oct 2012 #18
that's an insult to fleas! napkinz Oct 2012 #20
Just let it hang out there to dry. Nobody will be taken in. (nt) enough Oct 2012 #10
there are still a few undecided, low-info voters ... napkinz Oct 2012 #13
I wonder about that... Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #23
"Mr. Romney, when you met them, did you tell them the following? democrat_patriot Oct 2012 #12
excellent! napkinz Oct 2012 #14
That would be an excellent tactic. Once facing the camera, Obama can be Obama. nt bluestate10 Oct 2012 #25
that's our biggest advantage napkinz Oct 2012 #27
"I met with Mrs H, whose health insurer canceled her policy when she got breast cancer". Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #16
yes! napkinz Oct 2012 #19
we already have romney's own words saying he doesn't give a flying f*ck about 47% spanone Oct 2012 #21
WE have Romney's words about the 47%, we know how he really feels about them/us napkinz Oct 2012 #26
"What would you like to do with [X]'s Social Security? Is [X] a 'taker' member of the 47%?" WinkyDink Oct 2012 #22
President Obama should honestly compliment Romney. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #24
hand Romney a hankie with a crocodile print on it. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #28
I know just the guy to hand it to him napkinz Oct 2012 #29
He should just ignore it. It'll look petty to comment on it. Romney comes across as a phoney BenzoDia Oct 2012 #30
Beside the many fine responses above, he has to hammer home the 47% meme. riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #31
I agree napkinz Oct 2012 #32
Do Nothing kurt_cagle Oct 2012 #33
Even if Romney tries that, he can't deliver sincerity pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #35
Obama should respond by talking up POLICIES that will help them. reformist2 Oct 2012 #37
Well the day is here napkinz Oct 2012 #40
How are they getting by? loyalsister Oct 2012 #39
Well I knew he was going to take that approach napkinz Oct 2012 #41

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
1. Tell him to put his money where his mouth is.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

How are his regressive, pro-plutocrat policies going to help the soldier and the single mom? Since giving tax cuts to rich people doesn't, in fact, create jobs - it does nothing but make the rich people richer - how are those ordinary people's lives going to be improved?

And how does this new-found compassion square with his statement that it's not his job to worry about "those people"?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
3. I think the President should look into the camera too ...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

I think he should turn to the camera too, and address the person that Romney had just addressed when he discusses those regressive, pro-plutocrat policies. I don't think he should use those words. Rather he should just spell out how the actual policies would hurt that individual were he/she to elect Romney.

(We have one advantage already ... President Obama doesn't have to pretend to care.)











Avalux

(35,015 posts)
2. Not a damn thing. If Romney really does that, he's going to sink himself.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

The man is not empathetic, and if he pretends to be, no matter how much he's practiced, it just doesn't work. We've already seen him try this on occasion and he ends up looking like an alien.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
5. I assume the president's team is preparing for this approach ...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:46 PM
Oct 2012

based on an article I just read, posted by another member.

I'm just wondering the best way to deal with it.

As I said above, in my reply to The Velveteen Ocelot, I think the president should address each of the individuals Romney mentions, by looking into the camera too, and talking to those individuals.

The viewers will then see two candidates addressing individuals, one feigning empathy and one not. But I think for that contrast to be seen, the president has to look right into that camera -- not at Romney -- and talk to those individuals.

I wonder if others agree with this approach.

Any other suggestions for dealing with this new approach it appears Romney is going to try?










Avalux

(35,015 posts)
34. Like I said, he should do nothing.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:12 PM
Oct 2012

Stay focused and on message and not react to Romney at all. If Obama were to allow Romney to lead the debate just as you suggest, he would lose control of the situation because he'd be reacting to Romney. Then he would appear weak.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
38. Yes it has.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

Romney will trip himself up; Obama just needs to do what he does naturally. He has the truth on his side.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
7. that's the message he has to get across but
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:51 PM
Oct 2012

not in that tone

though we of course here can take that tone





napkinz

(17,199 posts)
8. well he does have to respond to it
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:57 PM
Oct 2012

the question is how

Remember, there are undecided, low-information voters who -- believe it or not -- will be "seeing" Romney for the first time. They know the name, they've seen his face, but they haven't been paying attention to what he's said and done.

SNL did a skit on low-information, undecided voters. I don't think they are that pathetic. The sketch had people asking, "When is the election?" and "What are the names of the candidates?"

But the situation is pathetic, that after all these months, some actually don't know who the real Romney is, and not knowing his past, will buy into his empathy display.

Every vote counts. Every impression counts.




 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. It depends. He should point out that Romney's policies.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:09 PM
Oct 2012

will hurt people who are struggling, and he's sure to do that. And people apparently do know who the real Romney is- thanks to Romney. Furthermore, Romney comes off as a total phony when he tries the empathy shtick. What the President doesn't want to do is tell Romney he has the empathy of a flea.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
13. there are still a few undecided, low-info voters ...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

And those that haven't been paying attention, and don't know the real Romney, and WHO WILL VOTE ... could easily be led to believe he's empathetic.

And those votes will COUNT.

We can't write off anybody.




Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
23. I wonder about that...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:28 PM
Oct 2012

Remember 2008? You couldn't turn on a TV without seeing some dufus talking about their tortured soul and how difficult it was to make up their mind about who to vote for. Fast forward to 2012 - I have yet to see one article or TV news story about the angst of undecided voters. More importantly, where are those undecided voters? Idaho? Mississippi? Arizona? Ohio? And just who are these undecided voters anyway? Celebrity seekers looking for their 15 minutes of fame? Racists? Tea Baggers trying to change public perceptions about the election's outcome? Finally, ask yourself who's meme the whole undecided voter narrative supports? Could it be a way for the M$M's to drive up political talking heads TV viewership and the cost of political ads?

Now its true we need to work for every vote. But I suspect the real number of undecided voters is really below the margin of error for most political polls - in other words - this cake is mostly baked.

democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
12. "Mr. Romney, when you met them, did you tell them the following?
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

That the Republican party just voted down a Vets jobs bill?

That you plan to replace medicare with vouchers - but only for those younger than 55?

You will HAVE to raise taxes on those two people to help out your millionaire buddies?

That they may be part of that 47% you so famously quotyed as not caring about?

And if so, what were their responses?

Mr Romney my vision is vastly different than yours and it goes like this......"

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
14. excellent!
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:06 PM
Oct 2012

thank you!

edit: but I think he should quickly turn to the camera and talk to the individual Romney had just addressed.




Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. "I met with Mrs H, whose health insurer canceled her policy when she got breast cancer".
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:08 PM
Oct 2012

"Governor Romney, why have you have pledged to overturn the Affordable Care Act, which bans this practice, on the first day of your presidency?"

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
26. WE have Romney's words about the 47%, we know how he really feels about them/us
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

But there will be a few -- how few? -- who actually haven't been paying attention and for whom tomorrow's debate will be an introduction to Romney. (I know, that's pathetic.)

So for these few undecided, low-information voters, first impressions will count, as will their VOTES!

Let's "leave no voter behind."











bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
24. President Obama should honestly compliment Romney.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:28 PM
Oct 2012

Then point out that he has met the same type of people during his Administration and that he is happy to see Romney come to have a small amount of understanding of the people that Romney met. President Obama should avoid coming off as trite, but should work to point out that Romney meeting the type of people that meet and support President Obama every day is a revelation to Romney.

BenzoDia

(1,010 posts)
30. He should just ignore it. It'll look petty to comment on it. Romney comes across as a phoney
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:58 PM
Oct 2012

anyways. Only hist supporters by his crap.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
31. Beside the many fine responses above, he has to hammer home the 47% meme.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 07:59 PM
Oct 2012

He must talk to John G, a soldier who fought in Iraq, and tell him that Rmoney believes he's a taker, not a maker. That Rmoney believes he doesn't really have to care about him because he doesn't believe John G. will ever take responsibility for his life.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
32. I agree
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 08:03 PM
Oct 2012

I think there's a consensus here that that's what he should do

(the pundits have been arguing on how does the president bring up the 47% video ... does he introduce the term or "wait for an opening from Romney" and then pounce)








kurt_cagle

(534 posts)
33. Do Nothing
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:52 PM
Oct 2012

Romney is a man who memorizes zingers to use against Obama. If he plays the empathy card once, he will play the empathy card so often that people will get sick of all the supposed empathy. Moreover, his base is going to be turned off by the empathy even more than Dems will be, because many view empathy as a weakness, not a strength.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
35. Even if Romney tries that, he can't deliver sincerity
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

President Obama has something Romney lacks--sincerity and passion.

No sale, Mitt.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
37. Obama should respond by talking up POLICIES that will help them.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:34 PM
Oct 2012

Even if Mitt sounds compassionate (a BIG if), it will ring hollow if Mitt doesn't offer any real government action to help them.

That's where Obama can trump him.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
40. Well the day is here
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:06 AM
Oct 2012

I don't think Mitt's attempt at empathy will work.

He himself may fail. Or the way the president responds may derail Romney's attempt.

Tonight we'll see.



napkinz

(17,199 posts)
41. Well I knew he was going to take that approach
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 09:08 PM
Oct 2012

There he goes, addressing individuals ...

"I met a woman with a baby in her arms"

Feigned empathy!




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