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Is trump trying to start a war with Iran to stay in power? (Original Post) BlueLucy Nov 2020 OP
No, he wants to start a war so that he Bettie Nov 2020 #1
Yes, exactly!!! Trump wants to create a F'en mess for Biden, then he can stand on RKP5637 Nov 2020 #3
That's also why he's Bettie Nov 2020 #8
Yup, just like that middle class tax cut that is about to expire. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #14
Yep, always that way!!! Too bad many voters can't seem to figure out what goes on RKP5637 Nov 2020 #18
Yes I have no doubt he wants to leave Biden a huge mess and Bev54 Nov 2020 #15
Exactly. He's trying to position himself for a 2024 run. NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #17
He wants to make a last big manly show underpants Nov 2020 #2
Yep, daddy, daddy, look at me, see, I'm a real man! Then he can strut around some in his over-sized RKP5637 Nov 2020 #5
What is the "wars act" sarisataka Nov 2020 #4
War Powers Act Brother Buzz Nov 2020 #16
The War Powers Act sarisataka Nov 2020 #19
Thank you. I was trying to figure that one out. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #22
Of course Brother Buzz Nov 2020 #28
I think the easiest explanation is probably the most likely genxlib Nov 2020 #6
What in the hell is the "wars act"? Coleman Nov 2020 #7
The Toddler-in-Chief is wrecking the place on the way out. tinrobot Nov 2020 #9
Yep... this is what the GOP always does, but on steroids. Zoonart Nov 2020 #10
No. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #11
nothing keeps him power past Jan 20th beachbumbob Nov 2020 #12
If so, it is a stupid plan. MineralMan Nov 2020 #13
Trump, is too stupid and delusional to ever benefit from an education. One professor RKP5637 Nov 2020 #20
There is nothing that allows the President to serve beyond his term. Statistical Nov 2020 #21
Ridding his stink of defeat may be expensive for the rest of us. Sneederbunk Nov 2020 #23
When Trump does something on an international scale that, at first blush, Mike 03 Nov 2020 #24
I think he wants to start a war just to boost his ego. He has always wanted to be a "war LiberalBrooke Nov 2020 #25
Seems a little late fescuerescue Nov 2020 #26
What do you mean "stay in power?" themaguffin Nov 2020 #27

Bettie

(16,118 posts)
1. No, he wants to start a war so that he
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:08 PM
Nov 2020

can point to Biden and scream Warmonger and his minions, including those in congress will scream with him.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
3. Yes, exactly!!! Trump wants to create a F'en mess for Biden, then he can stand on
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:13 PM
Nov 2020

the sidelines and scream at Biden, as Trump potentially holds his asinine rallies for his hillbilly friends (as tagged by Howard Stern).

Bettie

(16,118 posts)
8. That's also why he's
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
Nov 2020

messing with Social Security Disability too. Make people blame Biden when HIS changes show up.

I'm sure there are other metaphorical bombs that will go off the second Biden gets into office.

We always have a mess to clean up after they leave office.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
14. Yup, just like that middle class tax cut that is about to expire.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:29 PM
Nov 2020

The expiration was put in place by legislation passed by Republicans and signed by Trump. But, it will expire after Trump is gone, and unfortunately, most people don't understand how our government works, so they will blame Biden for it. We always clean up after them, and we always get the blame for those messes.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
18. Yep, always that way!!! Too bad many voters can't seem to figure out what goes on
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:38 PM
Nov 2020

and they prefer GOP propaganda.

Bev54

(10,066 posts)
15. Yes I have no doubt he wants to leave Biden a huge mess and
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:30 PM
Nov 2020

at the same time he takes out some of his vengeance out on Iran, because they would not play ball with him.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
17. Exactly. He's trying to position himself for a 2024 run.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:38 PM
Nov 2020

Make no mistake, he and his Republican sycophants in Congress will do all in their power to undermine this administration in every way possible and spin their lies on networks like OAN and Fox. If he can succeed in starting a war with his new Pentagon appointees he will use his actions to fault the Biden administration.
Just because Biden will be in the Oval Office does not mean the battle for the soul of America ends at that time.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
5. Yep, daddy, daddy, look at me, see, I'm a real man! Then he can strut around some in his over-sized
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:15 PM
Nov 2020

black coat feeling like a fascist leader.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
22. Thank you. I was trying to figure that one out.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:44 PM
Nov 2020

My non-legal reading of it didn't really seem to indicate he could stay in power.

Brother Buzz

(36,456 posts)
28. Of course
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:06 PM
Nov 2020

But the revenge and retaliation runs strong with the orange anus.

He screwed the pooch when he walked away with the Iran nuclear deal Obama et al. helped broker. An agreement that was actually working, so in his demented mind, he wanted to show us how it should have been handled.

"Jaw, jaw is better than war, war." is for wussies, don't you know?

genxlib

(5,529 posts)
6. I think the easiest explanation is probably the most likely
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:15 PM
Nov 2020

If he walks away as things are, Biden could seek to rejoin the coalition agreement with Iran.

If he picks a fight with them, it makes it a great deal more complicated to unwind that particular decision.

Coleman

(854 posts)
7. What in the hell is the "wars act"?
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:17 PM
Nov 2020

There is no law that if a war starts that it would keep Trump in the White House.

If he starts a war with Iran, on Jan 20, Joe Biden becomes President and CinC. It becomes Biden's war.

If you are talking about the War Powers Act, it is there in an attempt to rope in the president's use of the military.

tinrobot

(10,913 posts)
9. The Toddler-in-Chief is wrecking the place on the way out.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
Nov 2020

He's not allowed to "win", so he's flipping over the game board.

Zoonart

(11,875 posts)
10. Yep... this is what the GOP always does, but on steroids.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

They want Biden governing out of a smoking crater and then they will run on....ONLY I CAN FIX IT.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
11. No.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

He's trying to start a war with Iran to make an even bigger mess for Biden. He is a petty, vindictive fuck.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
13. If so, it is a stupid plan.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:23 PM
Nov 2020

The transfer of power would still take place. There is no available opportunity to remain in power once a new President is elected. The Constitution is quite clear on that point.

If Trump thinks otherwise, he will get an education on that subject very shortly.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
20. Trump, is too stupid and delusional to ever benefit from an education. One professor
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

said something like he was the most stupid person he had ever tried to teach.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
21. There is nothing that allows the President to serve beyond his term.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:43 PM
Nov 2020

He is throwing a temper tantrum and causing damage. There is nothing that allows the President to serve beyond his term. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. No matter what someone other than Trump will be President on Jan 20th.

If as a hypothetical after Congress names Biden and Harris as Pres-elect and VP-elect they die in a plane accident Trump STILL wouldn't remain President. In that utterly unlikely scenario Pelosi would become President.

Don't let him mind fuck you. No matter what he will not be President on Jan 20th.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
24. When Trump does something on an international scale that, at first blush,
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:46 PM
Nov 2020

doesn't seem to benefit him directly or personally, I start to wonder if he is repaying a favor to a foreign leader, or expecting a favor in return (i.e., the Syrian troop pullout, moving the embassy to Jerusalem).

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
25. I think he wants to start a war just to boost his ego. He has always wanted to be a "war
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:50 PM
Nov 2020

president” because he thinks it will make him look strong. Since he is feeling weak now, look for ways he will try to change that.

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