If the next 4 years are nothing more than criminal investigations of the last 4, I'm fine with that

[A HERETIC I AM]

The idea that Trumpy might walk, or that he could fucking pardon himself and scoot down the boulevard simply CAN NOT BE ALLOWED

It just can't.

There have been numerous threads of late about how he will never see the inside of a jail cell and all that, but the fact is, if the man committed crimes while in office, he needs to be charged and tried, full stop.

It just can't be allowed, plain and simple.

If we as a country allow this fucking asshole to trample all over the rule of law, the Constitution, the norms of the presidency, then there is nothing stopping the next asshole from doing more and worse.

If nothing else, a Star Trek reference is applicable.

THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HERE. THIS FAR! NO FURTHER!

[Demsrule86]

1. NO, first of all Trump will pardon himself...secondly turn it over to the AG...

I expect most of Trump's law issues will end up at the state level due to pardoning himself. I do not wish to spend four years going after Trump...we have bigger fish to fry...like keeping our promised to those who put us in office who don't want four more years of drama. We can do what we can to make it harder for another Trump...but if you think they would not do exactly the same thing no matter what we do, well wrong.

[A HERETIC I AM]

5. The idea that he can pardon himself is laughable.

I'm no lawyer, but from what I understand, the idea that a man can not be the judge in his own trial goes back 4 or 5 hundred years.

Even if he tries, it just can not be allowed.

I do not wish to spend four years going after Trump...we have bigger fish to fry

So the fish that represents the actual continuation of this Constitutional Republic isn't a big enough fish, eh?

Please. We as a country can walk and chew gum at the same fucking time.

[Demsrule86]

10. It has never been decided in court...and SCOTUS is right wing so my guess is he will be allowed to

pardon himself.

[A HERETIC I AM]

13. Don't count on it...

Not to suggest you are, but ....


I wouldn't take the bet, is my point.

If the members of the SCOTUS want to retain any semblance of actual credibility, they'll take a good, hard look at that bullshit and decide accordingly.

I don't hold Roberts in too high regard, but he does seem to understand his responsibility to keep the Court as an appropriate, independent arbiter.

Having said all that, Whatshername (Miss "I take all my instruction from my husband, per the bible" ) and Whathisname "I like Beer, and I am not at all qualified" ) both need to be impeached post haste, but there you go.

[Volaris]

6. He wont pardon himself. He will quit jan 15th and walk out of the WH with pence pardon in hand.

[Demsrule86]

8. He will have a pardon either way.

[Volaris]

12. I think this is correct.

[Frasier Balzov]

2. If we don't win the Senate, expect an investigation of Joe and Hunter.

Republicans will view it as a strategic balance of terror.

[Hoyt]

3. Unfortunately, we've got healthcare, enhanced unemployment, tax reform,

bolstering Social Security, reestablishing international relations, etc., to spend inordinate time trying to investigate and prosecute trump for which juries will likely see as political crimes and hang, letting trump officially walk.

We need to move on and direct anger at beating GOPers at the polls over and over.

[Demsrule86]

9. Exactly, we need to send help to the American people. Screw Trump. He is an old man...maybe

the states can take him out. We have two years before the midterms...and if we make it all about Trump, we will surely lose.

[Hoyt]

11. Good way to put it.

[Lock him up.]

14. We can chew gum, walk, talk, run, and jump at the same time.

There are enough qualified professionals for each task to hire in this over-330-million-people country.

On edit: Women can do it. Sweet Justice... to a children Rapist.

[Hoyt]

15. Move on from trump or let the POS keep screwing us over again.

We’ll never get anything done while going after trump. Besides, no jury will convict him. There will always be a white winger, or two, to hang any jury.

I get the anger, but I’d rather see people screwed by him getting some help than trying to hurt trump, no matter how much he deserves it.

[Deuxcents]

4. I hear you

This *resident is talking about crime n punishment. Bring back the firing squads. We need more enforcement n blah blah. What would be punishment for a person who separates infants and children from their parents n puts them in cages? What punishment for forced gynecological operations on women seeking asylum? What punishment for stomping on our Constitution? What punishment for over 250,000 deaths from a pandemic that he refused to acknowledge? And the list goes on. What punishment for this man n his enablers? If it takes all 4 years..another 4 years, then by god, yes! Get it done. I am not thinking Star Wars..I’m thinking Nuremberg like investigations n trials. I think it’s that serious. Yep..I’m not happy about the current events like payments for pardons?! There is no bottom..

[abqtommy]

7. We are The DEMOCRATS and multi-tasking is in our genes and DNA. Sure, we can put

them all away and more besides!