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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:18 PM Dec 2020

This family bet everything on bitcoin when it was $900 - and bought more when it crashed in 2018

CNBC

Didi Taihuttu, his wife, and three kids bet all they have on bitcoin.

In 2017, CNBC spoke to the Dutch family of five when they were in the process of liquidating their assets — from a profitable business and 2,500-square-foot house, to their shoes — and trading it all in for the popular cryptocurrency and a life on the road.

Nearly four years and 40 countries later, Taihuttu and his family still don’t have bank accounts, a house, or all that much by way of personal possessions. All of the family’s savings remain tied up in highly volatile cryptocurrencies.

“We stepped into bitcoin, because we wanted to change our lives,” said the 42-year-old father of three.


Perhaps, as a Nederlander, he should bone up on the history of the tulip bubble?

The Dutch tulip bulb market bubble, also known as 'tulipmania' was one of the most famous market bubbles and crashes of all time. It occurred in Holland during the early to mid 1600s when speculation drove the value of tulip bulbs to extremes. At the height of the market, the rarest tulip bulbs traded for as much as six times the average person's annual salary.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dutch_tulip_bulb_market_bubble.asp


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This family bet everything on bitcoin when it was $900 - and bought more when it crashed in 2018 (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2020 OP
Maybe if the Tulips were opium poppies it would be a better fit Blues Heron Dec 2020 #1
What people don't get. With a universal ledger, BTC is the worst JCMach1 Dec 2020 #5
it's easier and more anonymous than a bank wire though Blues Heron Dec 2020 #7
Not really JCMach1 Dec 2020 #12
Thanks for that link Blues Heron Dec 2020 #15
If someone is feeding $100 bill into a machine... Silent3 Dec 2020 #11
You realize how untraceable cash is, right? JCMach1 Dec 2020 #13
Yes, which was my point. Silent3 Dec 2020 #17
lol some days it's my only human contact Blues Heron Dec 2020 #14
If you don't understand it, I get it. But, I have made thousands JCMach1 Dec 2020 #2
They still made money, passing up on bitcoin in 2010 was the worst mistake of my life ansible Dec 2020 #3
I dunno, I've been hearing the warnings about Bitcoin bubbles and other admonishments Doremus Dec 2020 #4
Maybe I should buy some MoonlitKnight Dec 2020 #6
A foreign sailor ate a tulip bulb, thinking it onion, was charged with grand larceny Cicada Dec 2020 #8
Qonan loves Bit Coin, Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #9
Yeah, the nefarious actors manipulating cryptocurrencies... OneGrassRoot Dec 2020 #16
Got a family member who Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #18
Between ISIS and Q... OneGrassRoot Dec 2020 #19
Read the Message Boards Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #20
Wow! thx n/t OneGrassRoot Dec 2020 #21
Bitcoin has died 341 times already... MisterProton Dec 2020 #10

Blues Heron

(5,940 posts)
1. Maybe if the Tulips were opium poppies it would be a better fit
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:23 PM
Dec 2020

I think bitcoin is being massively propped up by drug money laundering. The liquor store near here just put in a bitcoin machine and these sketchy guys hover over it for hours feeding in 100 dollar bills! (stacks of cash anyway if not all 100s)

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
5. What people don't get. With a universal ledger, BTC is the worst
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:28 PM
Dec 2020

Currency imaginable for money laundering.

There are cryptos setup for that, but not Bitcoin. It's transactions can be traced by anyone

Blues Heron

(5,940 posts)
7. it's easier and more anonymous than a bank wire though
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:36 PM
Dec 2020

even if it is traceable, they're still using it and drug money is still being fed into those machines.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
12. Not really
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 09:34 AM
Dec 2020
Despite the perception that crypto assets are a preferred haven for illegally acquired funds, criminals prefer to launder proceeds through mules, front companies, or cash businesses as well as investing it into crime, it said.

“Identified cases of laundering through cryptocurrencies remain relatively small compared to the volumes of cash laundered through traditional methods,” SWIFT noted, in a report titled “Follow The Money”, published last week..."SWIFT Says Criminals Prefer Cash for Money Laundering, Not Cryptocurrency | News Bitcoin News" https://news.bitcoin.com/swift-says-criminals-prefer-cash-for-money-laundering-not-cryptocurrency/

Blues Heron

(5,940 posts)
15. Thanks for that link
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 09:52 AM
Dec 2020

My observations are purely anecdotal. (and the guys at the liquor store make the same observations) - Sketchy young men with piles of cash that they feed into to the machines. Sometimes its 15-20 minutes of straight cash feeding right into the Bitcoin terminal. This is straight up weed money or coke money going in there. I think they like the seeming anonymity, especially if they're low level dealers.

Silent3

(15,265 posts)
11. If someone is feeding $100 bill into a machine...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 05:10 PM
Dec 2020

...it's going to be pretty hard to track Bitcoin purchases back to those people, unless there's surveillance video matching people with the Bitcoins they purchased, or there's some personally identifiable account the Bitcoin is transferred to when purchased.

I've never seen one of these machines myself. I guess I don't hang out at liquor stores enough!

Silent3

(15,265 posts)
17. Yes, which was my point.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 10:57 AM
Dec 2020

Buying Bitcoin with cash would make it difficult to track who owns the Bitcoin, unless other means of tracking enter into the picture. I'm not sure why you're asking me this, unless you're suggesting keeping the cash as cash is better that converting to Bitcoin. Perhaps true, but actual cash isn't much good for online or otherwise remote purchases.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
2. If you don't understand it, I get it. But, I have made thousands
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:25 PM
Dec 2020

Mining and investing in BTC over the years...

No tulips here, just blockchain tech...

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
3. They still made money, passing up on bitcoin in 2010 was the worst mistake of my life
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:26 PM
Dec 2020

I still remember when you could get 0.25BTC per hour for FREE in bitcoin faucets. Jesus fucking Christ, I invested all my money in the wrong things instead.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
4. I dunno, I've been hearing the warnings about Bitcoin bubbles and other admonishments
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:26 PM
Dec 2020

for years. If I'd have bought into it back when first warned away I'd have a more lavish lifestyle right now.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
8. A foreign sailor ate a tulip bulb, thinking it onion, was charged with grand larceny
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 03:55 PM
Dec 2020

It was worth more than a house!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Qonan loves Bit Coin,
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 04:10 PM
Dec 2020

those whom follow Patrick Bynns the Guy who was removed from Overstock runs a Q conspiracy web site that offers Fractional Shares of a Bit Coin,hundreds of suckers have been buying into his scam for more than three years.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
16. Yeah, the nefarious actors manipulating cryptocurrencies...
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 09:54 AM
Dec 2020

are what make me so nervous about it. I know criminals have used all types of currency but there's something about the cryptocurrency craze that makes me hesitate to get involved. Talk about volatile.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Got a family member who
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Dec 2020

is wrapped up in this thingee. Full blown Q. Some of this groups theories are amazingly off the friggin wall.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
20. Read the Message Boards
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 05:30 PM
Dec 2020

running behind these crypto scams. Blow your mind just how people are so easily screwed out of their hard earned dollars. Reminds one of the Schwab and Arnold days of Penny Stock Pump and Dumps. BTW,many of their employees are alive and well pumping this same scam.

MisterProton

(56 posts)
10. Bitcoin has died 341 times already...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 04:45 PM
Dec 2020
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/

Tulip markets don't have multiple ongoing exponentially increasing tops.

Next top projected between 85K to 280K over the next year or two.


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