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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis family bet everything on bitcoin when it was $900 - and bought more when it crashed in 2018
CNBCIn 2017, CNBC spoke to the Dutch family of five when they were in the process of liquidating their assets from a profitable business and 2,500-square-foot house, to their shoes and trading it all in for the popular cryptocurrency and a life on the road.
Nearly four years and 40 countries later, Taihuttu and his family still dont have bank accounts, a house, or all that much by way of personal possessions. All of the familys savings remain tied up in highly volatile cryptocurrencies.
We stepped into bitcoin, because we wanted to change our lives, said the 42-year-old father of three.
Perhaps, as a Nederlander, he should bone up on the history of the tulip bubble?
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dutch_tulip_bulb_market_bubble.asp
Blues Heron
(5,940 posts)I think bitcoin is being massively propped up by drug money laundering. The liquor store near here just put in a bitcoin machine and these sketchy guys hover over it for hours feeding in 100 dollar bills! (stacks of cash anyway if not all 100s)
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)Currency imaginable for money laundering.
There are cryptos setup for that, but not Bitcoin. It's transactions can be traced by anyone
Blues Heron
(5,940 posts)even if it is traceable, they're still using it and drug money is still being fed into those machines.
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)Identified cases of laundering through cryptocurrencies remain relatively small compared to the volumes of cash laundered through traditional methods, SWIFT noted, in a report titled Follow The Money, published last week..."SWIFT Says Criminals Prefer Cash for Money Laundering, Not Cryptocurrency | News Bitcoin News" https://news.bitcoin.com/swift-says-criminals-prefer-cash-for-money-laundering-not-cryptocurrency/
Blues Heron
(5,940 posts)My observations are purely anecdotal. (and the guys at the liquor store make the same observations) - Sketchy young men with piles of cash that they feed into to the machines. Sometimes its 15-20 minutes of straight cash feeding right into the Bitcoin terminal. This is straight up weed money or coke money going in there. I think they like the seeming anonymity, especially if they're low level dealers.
Silent3
(15,265 posts)...it's going to be pretty hard to track Bitcoin purchases back to those people, unless there's surveillance video matching people with the Bitcoins they purchased, or there's some personally identifiable account the Bitcoin is transferred to when purchased.
I've never seen one of these machines myself. I guess I don't hang out at liquor stores enough!
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)Silent3
(15,265 posts)Buying Bitcoin with cash would make it difficult to track who owns the Bitcoin, unless other means of tracking enter into the picture. I'm not sure why you're asking me this, unless you're suggesting keeping the cash as cash is better that converting to Bitcoin. Perhaps true, but actual cash isn't much good for online or otherwise remote purchases.
Blues Heron
(5,940 posts)I don't even drink anymore - just NA beer!
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)Mining and investing in BTC over the years...
No tulips here, just blockchain tech...
ansible
(1,718 posts)I still remember when you could get 0.25BTC per hour for FREE in bitcoin faucets. Jesus fucking Christ, I invested all my money in the wrong things instead.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)for years. If I'd have bought into it back when first warned away I'd have a more lavish lifestyle right now.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)So it will crash the next day.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)It was worth more than a house!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)those whom follow Patrick Bynns the Guy who was removed from Overstock runs a Q conspiracy web site that offers Fractional Shares of a Bit Coin,hundreds of suckers have been buying into his scam for more than three years.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)are what make me so nervous about it. I know criminals have used all types of currency but there's something about the cryptocurrency craze that makes me hesitate to get involved. Talk about volatile.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)is wrapped up in this thingee. Full blown Q. Some of this groups theories are amazingly off the friggin wall.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)they're giving cryptocurrencies a bad name. Truly.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)running behind these crypto scams. Blow your mind just how people are so easily screwed out of their hard earned dollars. Reminds one of the Schwab and Arnold days of Penny Stock Pump and Dumps. BTW,many of their employees are alive and well pumping this same scam.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)MisterProton
(56 posts)Tulip markets don't have multiple ongoing exponentially increasing tops.
Next top projected between 85K to 280K over the next year or two.