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babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 10:58 AM Jan 2021

Axios Co-founder: Some Republicans Believe Trump is "Sabotaging" Georgia Race


Posted on Thu, Dec 31st, 2020 by Alan Ryland
Axios Co-founder: Some Republicans Believe Trump is “Sabotaging” Georgia Race


During an appearance on CNBC, Axios co-founder Mike Allen said that some Republicans believe President Donald Trump’s erratic behavior in recent weeks is designed to “sabotage” the GOP’s chances of winning the Georgia runoff elections, which will determine which of the two major political parties will have control of the Senate.

“There’s a big strain of thought among Republicans that President Trump is sabotaging this race. He’s done so much to be unhelpful to those candidates,” Allen told “Squawk Box,” referring to GOP Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, who are up against Democrats Jon Ossoff and The Rev. Raphael Warnock respectively.

“I talk to Republicans and they look at what’s happening, and they say, ’You know, he must be thinking, ‘I want to send a message, If I’m not on the ballot, Republicans are in trouble,” he added.


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Axios Co-founder: Some Republicans Believe Trump is "Sabotaging" Georgia Race (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2021 OP
He is !! If Moscow Mitch wins senate leader then Red Don becomes persona non grata and just noise uponit7771 Jan 2021 #1
I think Traildogbob Jan 2021 #6
+1, with making life miserable for Americans Moscow Mitch will far exceed Putin's Whore but Trump uponit7771 Jan 2021 #9
Russia Aluminum plant in Kentucky Traildogbob Jan 2021 #18
That should itself be investigated !!! I remember that uponit7771 Jan 2021 #21
Ooh! I hope so! Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #2
He WAS on the ballot... NCDem47 Jan 2021 #3
If so, it would be one of the few decent things he has ever done. GoCubsGo Jan 2021 #4
Don't care if he is lonely bird Jan 2021 #5
You lost me at ToxMarz Jan 2021 #7
+10 nt reACTIONary Jan 2021 #11
Exactly. He doesn't care about anything that Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #13
Insert instincts of a child for thinking... paleotn Jan 2021 #19
He definitely is localroger Jan 2021 #8
This is a good thing atreides1 Jan 2021 #10
Trump only cares about himself DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #12
... Dave in VA Jan 2021 #14
Trump is and has been sabotaging the entire country. thucythucy Jan 2021 #15
Move along. Nothing to see here. Continue to GOTV in GA Tommymac Jan 2021 #16
Trump is chicken, he has no skin in the game if he doesn't support them bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #17
I hope that are right, and... 3catwoman3 Jan 2021 #20
I think that Lin guy is doing a terrific job at it. TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #22
Trump is the Elephant on the back of the GOP Roc2020 Jan 2021 #23
Trump looks like a really big loser if he could not win GA but Perdue/Loeffler can... RockRaven Jan 2021 #24
I'm fine with this. Please proceed! IronLionZion Jan 2021 #25
What? Trump and sabotage in the same sentence, unbelievable! blueinredohio Jan 2021 #26
"Strain of thought"? Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2021 #27
He'd use his mother's leg bone for leverage lol BootinUp Jan 2021 #28
Deliberate sabotage, or collateral damage? Martin Eden Jan 2021 #29
3 dimensional chess? DBoon Jan 2021 #34
Exactly this. Boomer Jan 2021 #37
what he wants is to terrify them into helping him commit a coup Takket Jan 2021 #30
Omg the Leopard's ate my face - GOP madeup64 Jan 2021 #31
trump does not care about Georgia, the Senate or the Republican Party Gothmog Jan 2021 #32
I can't help but think that "big strain of thought" is a typo.q BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #33
god i hope so mdbl Jan 2021 #35
Please let that BlueMTexpat Jan 2021 #36
Trump tweet: "illegal and invalid, and that would include the two current Senatorial Elections" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2021 #38
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. The man who demands total loyalty is loyal to no one. Nitram Jan 2021 #39
Very possible jmowreader Jan 2021 #40
I think he's just burning it all down to make it that much harder for Biden. Initech Jan 2021 #41
As long as it results in a Dem Senate Majority! BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #42

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
1. He is !! If Moscow Mitch wins senate leader then Red Don becomes persona non grata and just noise
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:01 AM
Jan 2021

... among being popular with the right.

He can't grift as much with Moscow Mitch as leader of the senate

Traildogbob

(8,770 posts)
6. I think
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jan 2021

Mitch is doing a pretty damn good job without trump. He is in our face with no tax dollars for tax payers, that money is strictly for the extreme wealthy. People may get sick of that old stale ancient man piss in their faces. I would hope so.🤔

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. +1, with making life miserable for Americans Moscow Mitch will far exceed Putin's Whore but Trump
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:42 AM
Jan 2021

... wants to be able to grift as much as possible and its nearly impossible if he's just noise in the background while Moscow Mitch gets the podium as leader of the senate.

Traildogbob

(8,770 posts)
18. Russia Aluminum plant in Kentucky
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:51 AM
Jan 2021

To laundry cash to Mitch makes him the whore and he has more power than Trump to apply Puty’s wish list. Self appointed power. Hoping XO Harris strips that absolute power from his rusty old ass.

NCDem47

(2,250 posts)
3. He WAS on the ballot...
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:03 AM
Jan 2021

and he LOST.

Why everyone reacts to this impeached, one-term President is beyond me.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
4. If so, it would be one of the few decent things he has ever done.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jan 2021

Regardless of the fact that his intentions are nowhere near decent.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
19. Insert instincts of a child for thinking...
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 12:07 PM
Jan 2021

Sure, there's neural activity before I does or says something, but I wouldn't categorize that as thinking either.

localroger

(3,629 posts)
8. He definitely is
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jan 2021

I've said since the outcome of the election became clear that if he doesn't win, he doesn't want anyone to win. Of course someone will win the election, but if "they" beat him then he doesn't want any other members of "his" team to win in his place. He'd rather it be a sweep by "them" that he just got caught up in. That way he can spread or shift the blame for his failure, as he always does. If he loses but other Republicans win, then he is particularly the loser and he can't stand that.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
12. Trump only cares about himself
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

There is no grand strategy to help, hinder, sabatoge or any other thing the GA election. He's having a rally in GA on Monday, but you know while he might say a sentence or two about Perdue/Loeffler, it will quickly turn into a mega-Festivus airing of his own grievances.

thucythucy

(8,081 posts)
15. Trump is and has been sabotaging the entire country.
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jan 2021

Hell, for four years he's been on a rampage against the entire world--excepting Russia.

Why should Georgia be any different?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
16. Move along. Nothing to see here. Continue to GOTV in GA
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jan 2021

Trump is soooooo 2020. Fuck him. Ignore the asshat.

The important thing is to continue to GOTV right up until the GA polls close on Jan 5.


bucolic_frolic

(43,227 posts)
17. Trump is chicken, he has no skin in the game if he doesn't support them
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 11:48 AM
Jan 2021

but if he does support them, and they lose, it's his second straight loss and he's washed up.

Add 4 years to Trump. CHF, COPD, more hair dye. You think he'll make it?

Joe Biden is older than Trump but he's taken good care of himself and it shows. Personal discipline counts for a lot.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
23. Trump is the Elephant on the back of the GOP
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jan 2021

and he will be crushing them for a long time. They had it coming and watching the reaping is pure satisfaction.

RockRaven

(14,978 posts)
24. Trump looks like a really big loser if he could not win GA but Perdue/Loeffler can...
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

That makes his loss about him personally and not a structural problem (I.e. it was rigged!!!!1!!1!!)

It's better for his fragile ego if they lose. He absolutely does not give a shit about McTurtle and his majority.

IronLionZion

(45,471 posts)
25. I'm fine with this. Please proceed!
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

I hope Warnock and Ossoff win big and Mitch is taken down a peg to be minority leader.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
27. "Strain of thought"?
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jan 2021

Although I hope there is some truth to what he says here, I am not usually very impressed by anything Axios, and it’s co-founder Mike Allen in particular, has to say.

BootinUp

(47,168 posts)
28. He'd use his mother's leg bone for leverage lol
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jan 2021

And he’ll try every bone till it doesn’t matter anymore and he backs down. He never really wins.

Martin Eden

(12,873 posts)
29. Deliberate sabotage, or collateral damage?
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jan 2021

Trump's behavior is driven by his mental pathologies, made worse by rage and desperation over the election as the reality of being booted from the seat of power and immunity draws ever near.

He will lash out to punish anyone he deems insufficiently loyal, especially those he thought were in his pocket.

Trump's tirades may well indeed factor into defeat for the Republican candidates in Georgia, but he is not playing three dimensional chess here because he is not playing with a full deck.

The man (if he can be called such) is in thrall to his malignant narcissism and handicapped by the appalling ignorance of the deluded belief that he knows more than anyone else without bothering to read or learn from others.

Donald Trump is a monster who leaves a path of destruction, heedless of any rational strategy or purpose other than feeding the immediate needs of his bottomless ego and rage.

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
37. Exactly this.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jan 2021

There is no long-term strategy because Trump reacts on a moment-by-moment basis. But his reflexive punching to express his rage can do a lot of damage.

Takket

(21,590 posts)
30. what he wants is to terrify them into helping him commit a coup
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jan 2021

the only thing he cares about is himself and keeping himself out of prison and in power to bilk the American people out of millions.

anyone who thinks there is some altruistic bone in his body that is worried about the good of the GOP and maintaining control of the Senate has not paid attention to ANYTHING that has happened in the last 5 years. If he can terrify perdue and loeffler into helping him with a coup then that is what he will do, even if it means helping their opponents. He could not care less who controls the Senate, only what helps him.

madeup64

(257 posts)
31. Omg the Leopard's ate my face - GOP
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jan 2021

Tell us again GOP about how much Trump cares about anything other than himself.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
33. I can't help but think that "big strain of thought" is a typo.q
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jan 2021

Or perhaps it's one more expression that being butchered into meaninglessness, like the intended meaning "could care less" is the opposite of what they really mean.

In this case, however, I imagine "thought" is a "big strain" for them.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,331 posts)
38. Trump tweet: "illegal and invalid, and that would include the two current Senatorial Elections"
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jan 2021

So yeah, he is sabotaging them:

"Additionally, the Georgia Consent Decree is Unconstitutional & the State 2020 Presidential Election is therefore both illegal and invalid, and that would include the two current Senatorial Elections."




Now, those tweets contain too many long words for Trump to have written them himself, but he has allowed Stephen Miller or whoever to put them out in his name (or pressed 'send' at the end), so it is still sabotage by him, even if he has conspirators.

(It'll be interesting to see what Trump does if one or both of the Republicans manages to win; I expect he wouldn't be calling that "illegal and invalid" any more).

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
40. Very possible
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

I suspect Trump is trying to retaliate against McConnell for not reversing the results of November's election by destroying McConnell's Senate majority.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
41. I think he's just burning it all down to make it that much harder for Biden.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 12:01 AM
Jan 2021

That's what all the conspiracy theories, all the lying and all the bullshit are for. He's just lighting things up to set Biden up to fail from day one. I am calling it now.

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