Why did Bernie cave

[Iwasthere]

I am baffled. I thought a filibuster plan was the best route to get a vote. Bernie and a few more Patriots could have just gone on and on.

[Tom Rinaldo]

1. If I recall right he planned to force the Senate to stay in session over the holiday weekend...

if McConnell did not allow a vote on the two thousand dollar relief checks first. Originally the Senate planned to be out of town before New Year's Eve. Senators like their time off, and the Republican Senators from Georgia wanted to be home to campaign. Democrats in the Senate were never going to allow Congress to adjourn without over riding Trump's veto of the Defense Bill, but they were willing to work with Bernie to keep the Senate in session into the weekend. No single Senator, not even a handful of them, can prevent a bill from ultimately being voted on unless there are 41 votes to block cloture. However Bernie could and did gum up the works exactly as planned, which kept public attention focused on the Republicans blocking Americans getting those $2,000 checks well into this extended holiday weekend.

[rzemanfl]

2. Excellent response. I think you meant to say adjourn though. n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

4. Thanks. Yep, I did. Fixed it n/t

[kimbutgar]

7. My right wing brother in law who voted for mf45 was angry McConnell blocked that money

When he disgusts that guy I bet others like him are angry.

[PatSeg]

9. Yeah

$2000 is nothing to discount lightly. Most people, whether right-wing or not, could really use that money.

[Baitball Blogger]

24. Karma hurts.

I have a right-wing ex-friend who just had a mishap that will cost her $4000 in property damage. I bet she's really wishing there weren't so many Republicans in the Senate, right about now.

[joshcryer]

3. It's all politics. And Sanders was going it alone.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214782047

He needed 16 Senators to back him on cloture. He most likely didn't have it.

[Autumn]

5. He did exacly what he planned to do. He forced them to stay in session over the

New Year weekend.

[comradebillyboy]

6. Not many Democratic Senators are going to follow Bernie's lead.

Bernie's Senate colleagues do not hold him in high esteem and do not look to him for leadership.

[choie]

12. Yeah, because if they did

they might have to have the balls to stand up on our behalf

[comradebillyboy]

13. They all know Bernie would lead them to catastrophic defeat and

a permanent Republican majority. Bernie just isn't popular outside the bluest of blue enclaves. It's why Donald trump desperately wanted to run against Bernie rather than Biden.

[Callado119]

27. That part..

...the Bernie and to a lesser extent AOC worship has reached trump cult level delusion in some online bubbles. When you peel back the useless grandstanding and Twitter clap backs, they are both just bad and polarizing politicians with very limited appeal..

[question everything]

25. He should first be registered as a Democrat. Then he may talk about followers.

[MineralMan]

8. There is only today and tomorrow for this session of Congress.

The Senate is still in session. So, Bernie succeeded in the sense that he kept the Senate in Washington for today and tomorrow. The new Congress begins on January 3. Nothing being considered now will carry over.

Sanders didn't "cave." He got what he wanted.

[comradebillyboy]

14. Great victory that.

[MineralMan]

18. It wasn't his doing, actually.

He said something. That's all. Others did stuff.

[comradebillyboy]

21. Sorry I left off the /s tag on my post.

Best wishes for the new year

[Nexus2]

19. I'm not trying to pick a fight I swear, just wondering that last post was sarcastic? (nt)

[comradebillyboy]

20. Yes it was. I forgot to add the /s tag

And Happy new year to all

[Nexus2]

26. Thanks! (nt)

[True Blue American]

10. The Senate just over rode

Trump veto! Vote now, 78 to 12!

[Maru Kitteh]

17. Which has exactly zip to do with the topic at hand. nt

[obamanut2012]

11. As someone (me) highly critical of Bernie Sanders

You are way off base with your OP. Sanders did exactly what he said he would do and succeeded at what needed to be done.

[joshcryer]

16. So Sanders expected to fail?

Fuck me, I wasted 4 days glued to this hoping he would offer a motion to proceed in consideration as has been done 28 times against the consent of the majority leader.

[aikoaiko]

22. Bernie did what he promised, but it was only a delay tactic and it succeeded.

The Senate voted to proceed on this vote on Dec 30.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=2&vote=00290


Bernie's goals were to delay, resist, promote the $2000 check with the public, and irritate Mitch. All accomplished.

And by delaying one introduces the possibility (ever so small with this bill) of a different outcome.

This was a good example of how someone like Bernie can work with Democrats in orchestrated moves.

[Iwasthere]

23. I understand it more clearly now. Perhaps I should have said "why did it appear that he caved"