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are the new strain. Politicians and their corporate allies are killing people
Four of the 20 persons who tested positive for Covid have the new strain.
Positivity rate in Jamaica is the highest in the last eight weeks.
monmouth4
(9,709 posts)OnDoutside
(19,965 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,556 posts)We need to stop this virus if we want to have a world to live in, in 2021.
malaise
(269,157 posts)It will be much worse in two weeks
wnylib
(21,562 posts)I suspect that the rapid rise in cases in the US is due only partly to people gathering at holidays and ignoring precautions. I think the new strain has been in the US for a while. The cases discovered recently in Colorado and California came from people who had not traveled. That means community spread already exists here.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,556 posts)don't add another variable into the each national case.
Blue Owl
(50,485 posts)Stay inside and self-isolate!
LisaL
(44,974 posts)It's a safe bet it's everywhere by now.
Wounded Bear
(58,691 posts)IcyPeas
(21,901 posts)The Philippines expanded restrictions on travelers from Britain and 18 other countries, adding the United States after a third state, Florida, reported an infection involving the variant. Many countries have already restricted travel from the United States because of its staggering number of infections the most in the world.
California and Colorado have also found cases involving the variant. None of those infected in the United States had traveled recently, so the new strain is clearly circulating, though at unknown levels.
malaise
(269,157 posts)This is madness
Ponietz
(3,001 posts)on the altar of the sacred market of greed. At least the Aztecs honored their victims.
malaise
(269,157 posts)They don't give a flying fuck about the majority of on citizens
A story I read yesterday from a Medium writer, Umar {don't recall his last name} spoke of the humans being basically sacrificed for the economy.
I feel we are nothing but cogs in this wheel of money for them.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I like his articles on Medium. However there are a lot of RW commenters who give him a hard time. I defend him whenever I get the opportunity.
wnylib
(21,562 posts)DemoTex
(25,400 posts)When the new strain gets here (if it is not already here) .. well, I can't even comprehend it. Yet the partying goes on, football goes on, school will go on next week, etc., etc., and my RWNJ neighbors prance around maskless like they have some devine protection.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Think of the 12 Monkeys movie from 1995.
ProfessorGAC
(65,136 posts)...and only lives about 3 blocks away, is going to visit friends in FL on the 14th.
Their SWA flight is costing them $45 each, roundtrip, Chicago to Ft. Myers. Grayhound would be over $160 per person.
The airlines aren't exactly dissuading travel with discounting like that.
Edit: I told him he was nuts to do it, but all he could think was they'll never get a deal like that again.
I love that guy...to death.
Signed,
His friendly SARS-CoV-2 buddy.
ProfessorGAC
(65,136 posts)That cheap ticket was all that mattered.
They know better, but the price!!!
That's why I blame the airlines, too! A $45 round trip ticket for a thousand mile flight is encouraging winter travel.
COVID shift in their model.
My wife & I used to go to Key West every few years. Have friends in three different keys.
One year, we went in late March. $975 for both of us round trip.
We got a wild idea to go down for New Year's Eve that same year.
Checked on prices. $1,050 EACH!
Winter flights appear to normally be higher.
Now, $45 round trip in January? That's not discouraging flying!
paleotn
(17,939 posts)Just ugh. Whenever I think I can no longer be surprised by human stupidity, they raise the bar and surprise me again. Or is that lower the bar? Ugh.
fwvinson
(488 posts)The part the really hit me in the movie is where Madeleine Stowe writes 5,000,000,000 dead on the side of the building.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)12 Monkeys - 2021 Time.
Aussie105
(5,420 posts)I can see the virus spreading throughout 2021, and not be under control until 2022 or 2023. Depending on vaccines making their way to everybody, and being effective.
Those who wanted to protect the economy by pretending it was business as usual, will find things falling apart anyway.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And yes. Which is why the immediate vaccine miracle was always a fantasy -- yet to say so folks dismissed such being on the anti-vakking side of the USA.
mchill
(1,018 posts)Than a 50% increase in fatality rate. Its all in the arithmetic.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0zJNDM-c9WfI4ed8cMpXSJMyvD_gvynFod7W65sc3W6piUTLn4MQMpUng
Kucharski compares a 50 percent increase in virus lethality to a 50 percent increase in virus transmissibility. Take a virus reproduction rate of about 1.1 and an infection fatality risk of 0.8 percent and imagine 10,000 active infectionsa plausible scenario for many European cities, as Kucharski notes. As things stand, with those numbers, wed expect 129 deaths in a month. If the fatality rate increased by 50 percent, that would lead to 193 deaths. In contrast, a 50 percent increase in transmissibility would lead to a whopping 978 deaths in just one monthassuming, in both scenarios, a six-day infection-generation time.
paleotn
(17,939 posts)...inability to grasp sometimes even simple mathematics is now our undoing. Sheds a new light on that age old question asked by students in every age...."how is all this math going to help me later in life?" Well, it could help you make informed decisions during a global pandemic that WON'T lead to your death or the deaths of others. Math teachers should beat their students over the head with that from now on.
barbtries
(28,810 posts)I hope you have been.
This virus is vicious.
denvine
(802 posts)Not surprising given the negligent attitude of the power brokers! Money rules. Stay safe!
Evolve Dammit
(16,754 posts)Stay safe Mon.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)However, American "exceptionalism" would never allow such a smart move to take place.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)bdamomma
(63,917 posts)malaise, we are all in this virus together. Wear your mask, social distance and wash hands. :candle