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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 08:03 PM Jan 2021

Holy Shit - some of those positive tests arriving in Jamaica from England last week

are the new strain. Politicians and their corporate allies are killing people
Four of the 20 persons who tested positive for Covid have the new strain.
Positivity rate in Jamaica is the highest in the last eight weeks.


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Holy Shit - some of those positive tests arriving in Jamaica from England last week (Original Post) malaise Jan 2021 OP
Oh malaise, stay safe. I'm so sorry Jamaica is going through this. Better days ahead I pray. n/t monmouth4 Jan 2021 #1
I'm not in the least surprised. We're in for a scary few months. OnDoutside Jan 2021 #2
Time for international isolationism. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #3
Sadly he airline and hotel industries rule malaise Jan 2021 #7
Too late for that, I'm afraid. wnylib Jan 2021 #14
Point is..... OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #15
Shit, that ain't the first news of 2021 you wanna hear Blue Owl Jan 2021 #4
Of course it's a new strain. LisaL Jan 2021 #5
Rasta be with you. Stay safe... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #6
From NY Times: it's in 33 countries already IcyPeas Jan 2021 #8
We're all going to have to shut down malaise Jan 2021 #10
We are witnessing the corporatist equivalent of human sacrifice Ponietz Jan 2021 #9
You nailed it malaise Jan 2021 #11
Yes! Delphinus Jan 2021 #12
Umair Haque. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #32
And the Aztecs sedated them, first. wnylib Jan 2021 #17
The positive test rate here in upstate South Carolina is 33.2% .. insane! DemoTex Jan 2021 #13
As long as airline flights continue, it will spread. roamer65 Jan 2021 #16
Guy I Know From Golf Course... ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #18
🦠 roamer65 Jan 2021 #19
He & His Wife Are 70 ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #35
Whaaa? Ugh. paleotn Jan 2021 #24
Now, I'm going to have to watch it again. fwvinson Jan 2021 #21
... roamer65 Jan 2021 #25
This.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #30
A few weeks won't do it. Aussie105 Jan 2021 #20
Try 2025... LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #31
A 50% increase in transmission is far more lethal mchill Jan 2021 #22
Ironically, the average human's paleotn Jan 2021 #26
stay home Malaise! barbtries Jan 2021 #23
So sorry to hear this! denvine Jan 2021 #27
What really sucks is that Cult 45 wants infection. They are getting what they wanted. Damn them. Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #28
Airtravel should have been SHUT DOWN for six months LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #29
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Jan 2021 #33
Stay safe bdamomma Jan 2021 #34

OAITW r.2.0

(24,556 posts)
3. Time for international isolationism.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 08:07 PM
Jan 2021

We need to stop this virus if we want to have a world to live in, in 2021.

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
14. Too late for that, I'm afraid.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

I suspect that the rapid rise in cases in the US is due only partly to people gathering at holidays and ignoring precautions. I think the new strain has been in the US for a while. The cases discovered recently in Colorado and California came from people who had not traveled. That means community spread already exists here.

IcyPeas

(21,901 posts)
8. From NY Times: it's in 33 countries already
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jan 2021
The finding brings the number of countries that have detected the variant to at least 33 since Britain announced finding it on Dec. 8, and the number of countries barring travelers arriving from Britain to more than 40. Some countries are also imposing restrictions on travelers, including U.S. citizens, who in recent weeks visited the countries where the variant has been detected.

The Philippines expanded restrictions on travelers from Britain and 18 other countries, adding the United States after a third state, Florida, reported an infection involving the variant. Many countries have already restricted travel from the United States because of its staggering number of infections — the most in the world.

California and Colorado have also found cases involving the variant. None of those infected in the United States had traveled recently, so the new strain is clearly circulating, though at unknown levels.

Ponietz

(3,001 posts)
9. We are witnessing the corporatist equivalent of human sacrifice
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 08:57 PM
Jan 2021

on the altar of the sacred market of greed. At least the Aztecs honored their victims.

Delphinus

(11,840 posts)
12. Yes!
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jan 2021

A story I read yesterday from a Medium writer, Umar {don't recall his last name} spoke of the humans being basically sacrificed for the economy.

I feel we are nothing but cogs in this wheel of money for them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. Umair Haque.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 11:44 PM
Jan 2021

I like his articles on Medium. However there are a lot of RW commenters who give him a hard time. I defend him whenever I get the opportunity.

DemoTex

(25,400 posts)
13. The positive test rate here in upstate South Carolina is 33.2% .. insane!
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 09:33 PM
Jan 2021

When the new strain gets here (if it is not already here) .. well, I can't even comprehend it. Yet the partying goes on, football goes on, school will go on next week, etc., etc., and my RWNJ neighbors prance around maskless like they have some devine protection.

ProfessorGAC

(65,136 posts)
18. Guy I Know From Golf Course...
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jan 2021

...and only lives about 3 blocks away, is going to visit friends in FL on the 14th.
Their SWA flight is costing them $45 each, roundtrip, Chicago to Ft. Myers. Grayhound would be over $160 per person.
The airlines aren't exactly dissuading travel with discounting like that.
Edit: I told him he was nuts to do it, but all he could think was they'll never get a deal like that again.

ProfessorGAC

(65,136 posts)
35. He & His Wife Are 70
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:29 AM
Jan 2021

That cheap ticket was all that mattered.
They know better, but the price!!!
That's why I blame the airlines, too! A $45 round trip ticket for a thousand mile flight is encouraging winter travel.
COVID shift in their model.
My wife & I used to go to Key West every few years. Have friends in three different keys.
One year, we went in late March. $975 for both of us round trip.
We got a wild idea to go down for New Year's Eve that same year.
Checked on prices. $1,050 EACH!
Winter flights appear to normally be higher.
Now, $45 round trip in January? That's not discouraging flying!

paleotn

(17,939 posts)
24. Whaaa? Ugh.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:12 PM
Jan 2021

Just ugh. Whenever I think I can no longer be surprised by human stupidity, they raise the bar and surprise me again. Or is that lower the bar? Ugh.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
25. ...
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:12 PM
Jan 2021

The part the really hit me in the movie is where Madeleine Stowe writes “5,000,000,000 dead” on the side of the building.

Aussie105

(5,420 posts)
20. A few weeks won't do it.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:06 PM
Jan 2021

I can see the virus spreading throughout 2021, and not be under control until 2022 or 2023. Depending on vaccines making their way to everybody, and being effective.

Those who wanted to protect the economy by pretending it was business as usual, will find things falling apart anyway.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
31. Try 2025...
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 11:07 PM
Jan 2021

And yes. Which is why the immediate vaccine miracle was always a fantasy -- yet to say so folks dismissed such being on the anti-vakking side of the USA.

mchill

(1,018 posts)
22. A 50% increase in transmission is far more lethal
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:08 PM
Jan 2021

Than a 50% increase in fatality rate. It’s all in the arithmetic.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/12/virus-mutation-catastrophe/617531/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0zJNDM-c9WfI4ed8cMpXSJMyvD_gvynFod7W65sc3W6piUTLn4MQMpUng

Kucharski compares a 50 percent increase in virus lethality to a 50 percent increase in virus transmissibility. Take a virus reproduction rate of about 1.1 and an infection fatality risk of 0.8 percent and imagine 10,000 active infections—a plausible scenario for many European cities, as Kucharski notes. As things stand, with those numbers, we’d expect 129 deaths in a month. If the fatality rate increased by 50 percent, that would lead to 193 deaths. In contrast, a 50 percent increase in transmissibility would lead to a whopping 978 deaths in just one month—assuming, in both scenarios, a six-day infection-generation time.

paleotn

(17,939 posts)
26. Ironically, the average human's
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:19 PM
Jan 2021

...inability to grasp sometimes even simple mathematics is now our undoing. Sheds a new light on that age old question asked by students in every age...."how is all this math going to help me later in life?" Well, it could help you make informed decisions during a global pandemic that WON'T lead to your death or the deaths of others. Math teachers should beat their students over the head with that from now on.

denvine

(802 posts)
27. So sorry to hear this!
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:41 PM
Jan 2021

Not surprising given the negligent attitude of the power brokers! Money rules. Stay safe!

Evolve Dammit

(16,754 posts)
28. What really sucks is that Cult 45 wants infection. They are getting what they wanted. Damn them.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 11:04 PM
Jan 2021

Stay safe Mon.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
29. Airtravel should have been SHUT DOWN for six months
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 11:04 PM
Jan 2021

However, American "exceptionalism" would never allow such a smart move to take place.

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
34. Stay safe
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 11:53 PM
Jan 2021

malaise, we are all in this virus together. Wear your mask, social distance and wash hands. :candle

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