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concretebluetwo

(114 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:31 AM Jan 2021

Been wondering if the traitors do not have some bigger plan....

Does anybody else wonder if the traitors are working a larger plan?
Please hear me out:
January 6th: Congress meets to certify electors/election. What should be a formality and last no more than an hour will be drawn out while the trumpansies throw their temper tantrums in both the House and the Senate.
Also January 6th: Hundreds (thousands? Dozens?) of angry CONNEDservatives will be rioting in the streets. The Proud Bitches, the Oaf Qweefers, Meal Team Six, all will be there amped up on AM radio grievance and Qanon bullshit. They will be looking to fight and cause as much havoc as possible.
I am aware that some have offered the fear that Tang is amping up his drooling moron followers and calling them to violence in order to invoke "Marshall Law", as they say on Parler, and suspend the transition.
Maybe.
But that does not account for the dissenters in the House and Senate.
Not even sure what I am thinking, but "keep the Dems and their peeps occupied in the chambers and keep the cops and prosecutors watching the streets while we...."
What?
I want to be confident that LE and Federal intelligence and our Reps and Senators got this, but it IS 2020, after all.
Please tell me I am spending too much time on the internet.

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Been wondering if the traitors do not have some bigger plan.... (Original Post) concretebluetwo Jan 2021 OP
The general rule I follow... Ohio Joe Jan 2021 #1
I think the dissenters in the House and Senate are trying to save their asses Rorey Jan 2021 #2
They've spent the last 4 years being impressively incompetent, and you think OnDoutside Jan 2021 #3
trump knows this won't work, duforsure Jan 2021 #4
You're spending too much time on the internet n/t Alpeduez21 Jan 2021 #5
You're spending too much time on the internet, it's 2021. gab13by13 Jan 2021 #6
It's not 2020 anymore...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2021 #7
My two cents Mike 03 Jan 2021 #8
I think the plan is: keep the money rolling in from the gullible rubes, and pressure state Repubs muriel_volestrangler Jan 2021 #9
Thank you, everyone.... concretebluetwo Jan 2021 #10

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. I think the dissenters in the House and Senate are trying to save their asses
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 06:47 AM
Jan 2021

They want that MAGAt vote and support for the elections down the road.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. trump knows this won't work,
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:19 AM
Jan 2021

And is doing it for these reasons, to take attention away from Biden, build up support for his revenue stream grifting from his supporters, and to claim he is again the victim, and that his supporters are too by claiming others are corrupt and are liars, not him, and this election was stolen from him, also knowing it wasn't. That's how a serial liar and a conman works the people, his marks.
Now he's gotten others compromised to help him promote this propaganda narrative, and putting them in a position you help me now or else. Its also putting them at risk to be investigated for treason , and corruption, which will be exposed if they are. trump's attempt at martial law will easily fail, and only make his consequences easier to get against him, and put those in Congress supporting anti-Democratic actions with trump in trouble for what they've done. trump's desperation grows as his time draws to a close protecting himself from getting exposed, and he will be. Then he'll be looked at as a traitor forever.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
8. My two cents
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 08:33 AM
Jan 2021

Putting aside Trump for the moment (because he only thinks about the present moment and a few seconds into the future), the Republican Party has two modes:

When there's a Republican president: Look out for themselves and their high-end donors and feed the base (especially the Christian Nationalists).

When there's a Democratic president: Try to make the United States ungovernable so that people begin to question whether or not democracy works. That kind of blockade of governance is what made Trump possible. It is a playbook that seems to be working in Europe, and is primarily a Russian export that is catching on as far right parties begin to degrade (or have completely degraded, as in the cases of Hungary, Poland and some others--India, Brazil, Philippines) formerly functioning democracies.

I think the GOP is moving back into the second mode.

I've come to this conclusion after reading a few books on this subject, most recently Ezra Klein's book Why are we Polarized?, Timothy Snyder's book (all of them are incredible) The Road to Unfreedom, Benjamin Carter Witt's book The Death of Democracy (which is actually about the rise of the Nazis, but ever-so relevant) and Anne Applebaum's book Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of Authoritarianism. There are some other great books on this too, but those come to mind this early in the morning.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,349 posts)
9. I think the plan is: keep the money rolling in from the gullible rubes, and pressure state Repubs
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 08:34 AM
Jan 2021

to pass ever-more restrictive rules about voting by mail.

Job #1 is: fleece the stupid Republican supporters who have been shown to believe anything they're told, and to respond by throwing cash at the con-artists. This will always be the top priority for Trumps, Cruz etc. Even more than holding power.

#2: Try to hold on to power wherever possible by making it harder for Dem-leaning groups to vote. This involves any Republican-controlled state legislatures passing the maximum number of restrictions on absentee, early etc. voting - especially in Democratic areas (eg the "only one drop box per county" con - fine for the 10 rural counties that reliably vote Republican, not so fine for the 1 Democratic urban county that has 10 times the population. Similarly, moves that increase the length of wait to vote in person, either early or on the day, hurt areas with more people per polling station. Again, it's easy to skew that in favour of Republican areas.

And the religious belief that "the 2020 election was stolen" that they have successfully indoctrinated in the idiot Republican followers means state Republicans benefit from pandering to it. ALEC will be writing a whole load of state laws designed to increase the Republican vote (ID rules that hurt Democratic voters are another profitable area). And gerrymandering will be widespread, with a conservative Supreme Court OKing it all.

It's not that they're going to invoke martial law etc. now; it's that they want money, and a skewed election in 2022 and beyond so that the minority Republican party can still hold power.

concretebluetwo

(114 posts)
10. Thank you, everyone....
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jan 2021

"After all, it IS 2020"
Yes, at that point I WAS spending too much time on the internet.
That being said, I have seen mentioned in a couple threads since 1/6/21 that suspicions of "what was REALLY being done" abound, both here and on other platforms where issues are discussed by rational people.
Here's hoping I am wrong.

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