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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:19 PM Jan 2021

'I just want to find 11,780 votes': In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia ...

‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor

By Amy Gardner
Jan. 3, 2021 at 12:59 p.m. EST

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected his assertions, explaining that Trump is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 12,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

Trump dismissed their arguments.

“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,” he said. “And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.”

Raffensperger responded: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.”

At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

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'I just want to find 11,780 votes': In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia ... (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2021 OP
"I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have." I'd say he is telling the SOS to OregonBlue Jan 2021 #1
Does he mean 12,780? tanyev Jan 2021 #2
oh man. didn't notice that stillcool Jan 2021 #10
I'm basing that on the Washington Post story that is in another thread. tanyev Jan 2021 #12
So he could lose by 1,000 votes instead? Generic Brad Jan 2021 #17
If Raffensberger were a Democrat, Trump SharonClark Jan 2021 #3
What's his point? Overturning Georgia wouldn't change a thing even if that was possible. catbyte Jan 2021 #4
Who says that Trump was only calling Georgia SOS? LisaL Jan 2021 #5
Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin have Democratic Secretaries of State. catbyte Jan 2021 #9
Don't mean to upset you but... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #18
And still, NOTHING is being done with recorded evidence that he is a blatant thug criminal.... Guilded Lilly Jan 2021 #6
Enough. Boomerproud Jan 2021 #11
K and R..Thank You for Posting..Proves Trump is a crook as well as totally "nuts" Stuart G Jan 2021 #7
It was a great call. Some people say it was perfect. underpants Jan 2021 #8
Haha took me a moment to get that. David__77 Jan 2021 #14
We need public comments from Loeffler and Perdue. How do they feel about this? Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #13
The hyporcrisy Windy City Charlie Jan 2021 #15
Amzing how sure he is that he won the state superpatriotman Jan 2021 #16
Did sound that way. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #20
I can't wait to hear what Speaker Pelosi has to say... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #19

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
1. "I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have." I'd say he is telling the SOS to
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:22 PM
Jan 2021

"find" votes that don't exist. That's illegal.

tanyev

(42,598 posts)
2. Does he mean 12,780?
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:24 PM
Jan 2021

Because 11,780 still doesn’t overcome Biden’s 12,779 victory. Effing mental midget.

tanyev

(42,598 posts)
12. I'm basing that on the Washington Post story that is in another thread.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:13 PM
Jan 2021

I see now that the MSN story is saying it’s an 11,779 margin. I don’t know which one is right.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214796869

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
17. So he could lose by 1,000 votes instead?
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:54 PM
Jan 2021

He's so incompetent, he can't even cheat effectively. What a loser!

catbyte

(34,425 posts)
4. What's his point? Overturning Georgia wouldn't change a thing even if that was possible.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:33 PM
Jan 2021

Unless he's honked off that Biden won as many EC votes as he did in 2016 and he can't have that.

What am I saying? I'm trying to apply logic to an unstable, malignant narcissist dictator wannabe.

Never mind.

catbyte

(34,425 posts)
9. Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin have Democratic Secretaries of State.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jan 2021

That's enough to give Biden the presidency right there.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
6. And still, NOTHING is being done with recorded evidence that he is a blatant thug criminal....
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jan 2021

simply unfathomable
Just brain exploding and soul shattering.

Midnight Writer

(21,786 posts)
13. We need public comments from Loeffler and Perdue. How do they feel about this?
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jan 2021

Oh, right, Perdue is hiding out again.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
15. The hyporcrisy
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jan 2021

Claims there's all sorts of fraud that hasn't been proven, and then turns around and wants someone to commit fraud like this for him.

2naSalit

(86,764 posts)
19. I can't wait to hear what Speaker Pelosi has to say...
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:55 PM
Jan 2021

About this. She'll say exactly the right thing.

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