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highplainsdem

(49,028 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:35 PM Jan 2021

Joyce Vance: There has to be a full federal investigation of Trump call to Raffensperger







There has to be a full fed’l investigation & accountability. Truth matters: @wapo has a recording of the conversation where “Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act & threatened him with vague criminal consequences”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
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Joyce Vance: There has to be a full federal investigation of Trump call to Raffensperger (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2021 OP
No bottom to Trump's abuse of power democrank Jan 2021 #1
That's what they need to form the commission for. LisaL Jan 2021 #2
Definitely! KPN Jan 2021 #14
now that's what I call an impeachable offense - if not a quick relocation to the slammer. forever. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2021 #3
It was a beautiful call. Some people are saying it was perfect. underpants Jan 2021 #4
Yep Solly Mack Jan 2021 #6
Insanity on steroids malaise Jan 2021 #12
Judge for yourself, part of it is at the WaPo Warpy Jan 2021 #33
I've listened to it underpants Jan 2021 #34
Dumdum thinks he needs only that first state to throw the whole thing into chaos Warpy Jan 2021 #37
The "investigation" will only take an hour. Deciding how to prosecute may take longer lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #5
How else do you interpret Pantagruel Jan 2021 #7
Or you will go to jail if you don't do what I ask -- don't forget the threat. RVN VET71 Jan 2021 #26
The way I see it Windy City Charlie Jan 2021 #28
But he did it so perfectly. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2021 #8
Trump doesn't want to remain in power, he's just terrified of the power of the SDNY courts. Frustratedlady Jan 2021 #9
Reminds me of the "perfect" Zelensky call Cozmo Jan 2021 #10
I bet if you played them side by side they'd be almost identical. Canoe52 Jan 2021 #36
What date did this happen? Baitball Blogger Jan 2021 #11
Yesterday. Liberal In Texas Jan 2021 #15
Yesterday malaise Jan 2021 #16
January 2, 2021 according to WA Post. KPN Jan 2021 #17
Yesterday. Trump lied about the call in a tweet this morning and Raffensperger told him he was lying highplainsdem Jan 2021 #19
Shit. Baitball Blogger Jan 2021 #22
This fucker is still giving respect to Trump. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #41
Public hearings are needed to shine light on this corruption. BarbD Jan 2021 #13
+1000000 Duppers Jan 2021 #25
+1,000,001. nt iluvtennis Jan 2021 #27
What about Hillary's emails???? ClusterFreak Jan 2021 #18
Oh, not to worry, those will be coming up if not by KPN Jan 2021 #20
I'm sure this isn't the only haranguing phone call he's been making. Liberal In Texas Jan 2021 #21
How is this not the ultimate abuse of power? WTF will it take? spanone Jan 2021 #23
Are we just going to let this thug WALK on this? Paladin Jan 2021 #24
Unrepentant criminal gademocrat7 Jan 2021 #29
Then Lindsey Graham stepped in... iluvtennis Jan 2021 #30
thank god the fake preznit lost. pansypoo53219 Jan 2021 #31
Investigations??... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2021 #32
Rt TY! Cha Jan 2021 #35
K&R n/t Kitchari Jan 2021 #38
Imagine how many calls just like this one, happen EVERY DAY. Mob Boss. Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #39
What's to investigate? BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #40
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #42

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
33. Judge for yourself, part of it is at the WaPo
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:31 PM
Jan 2021

Go ahead, take one for the team, you won't regret it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/audio-trump-berates-ga-secretary-of-state-urges-him-to-find-votes/2021/01/03/aba64f5f-8c3c-490f-af34-618ccea732d7_video.html

Raffensberger sounds like he won't be a Republican for long unless they repudiate Dumdum and all his supporters.

underpants

(182,868 posts)
34. I've listened to it
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:47 PM
Jan 2021

They were awfully polite to him

As I’ve asked elsewhere and really they could have asked him - So let’s say you get Georgia, then what? You still lose.

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
37. Dumdum thinks he needs only that first state to throw the whole thing into chaos
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jan 2021

by proving the system was rigged against him. This is what malignant narcissists do. He knows damned full well he lost, he's just desperate to prove it wasn't his fault.

Whether or not it puts him into prison is moot. I think he's got enough money to delay everything long enough to shuffle off this mortal coil first. His kids are going to be unhappy about that, it will cost their inheritance.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
5. The "investigation" will only take an hour. Deciding how to prosecute may take longer
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 02:54 PM
Jan 2021

but the evidence is all there, and the idiot is bragging about it publicly.

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
26. Or you will go to jail if you don't do what I ask -- don't forget the threat.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:36 PM
Jan 2021

But I do not expect anything will be done about this. Biden/Harris will be politically advised to let it go and to let New York take care of Trump. That would be very dubious advice at best. But that’s the way I think it’s going to go down.

I mean Trump once said, publicly, that he’d not lose a single vote if he shot someone dead in broad daylight on 5th Avenue, and people laughed. But he’s killed 350,000 Americans just as brazenly and look at the price he’s paying for that genocide -- in full and agonizing public view -- namely zero.

Ain’t nuthin’ gonna happen. Not by the Federal Government, anyway.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. Trump doesn't want to remain in power, he's just terrified of the power of the SDNY courts.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:09 PM
Jan 2021

He's backed in a corner and can't figure out how to avoid prison except through mob techniques/threats.

I've seen worms being threaded on a hook that wiggled less than he is now.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
16. Yesterday
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jan 2021

In a one-hour phone call on Saturday with Georgia election officials, President Trump insisted he won the state and threatened vague legal consequences if the officials did not act. These are excerpts from the call.

‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/audio-trump-berates-ga-secretary-of-state-urges-him-to-find-votes/2021/01/03/aba64f5f-8c3c-490f-af34-618ccea732d7_video.html

highplainsdem

(49,028 posts)
19. Yesterday. Trump lied about the call in a tweet this morning and Raffensperger told him he was lying
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

in a tweet a few hours ago and said that "the truth will come out."



KPN

(15,649 posts)
20. Oh, not to worry, those will be coming up if not by
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jan 2021

January 7, then January 21 ... along with Ukraine.

Liberal In Texas

(13,570 posts)
21. I'm sure this isn't the only haranguing phone call he's been making.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jan 2021

He isn't doing his job, he's spending all his time trying to force state officials to overthrow the election.



Paladin

(28,271 posts)
24. Are we just going to let this thug WALK on this?
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 03:22 PM
Jan 2021

If he's a good little boy and ends up vacating the White House, will there be no consequences for this goon-like behavior? There are literally no depths to which trump won't sink---and this time the press has the tape. Is there no penalty, no justice? Quite frankly, I think he'll just get away with it, yet again.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,773 posts)
32. Investigations??...
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jan 2021

It’s all recorded.
Nothings going to happen except we the people are pissed, disappointment next.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
40. What's to investigate?
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:12 PM
Jan 2021

It appears to be a very self-contained, complete and self-explanatory "case" already. What is an investigation going to tell anyone about it?

Unless there is more going on outside of this call, but connected to it.

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