Bernstein on CNN - far worse than Watergate - calls for Trump to resign immediately

[malaise]

A criminal person in the form of Trump and a subversive person in the form of Trump; he is trying to instigate a coup- in a normal presidency, this tape would lead to impeachment, removal and immediate resignation.

[servermsh]

1. Finally someone on TV speaks the truth!

[AngryOldDem]

9. It may be true, but it won't happen.

Neither will a visit from top GOP congressional leaders.

Time’s come to reevaluate how blatant criminality from the Oval is addressed.

[dhol82]

23. Sadly true.

We are a fucked over country now.

[wnylib]

65. Absolutely. The behavior of Trump

and his gang of supporters exposes some areas of governance covered more by good will than by law. When good will is lacking, then, so is good governance. This gap needs to be closed up with laws for dealing with bad faith governance.

[Hortensis]

33. Finally? Come on. Why even say that? nt

[lindysalsagal]

2. But he's normalized authoritarianism.

[Hortensis]

36. But Trump didn't start it. Bush I got it really rolling, Bush II

and cabal got it up to speed (torture, anyone?, illegal surveillance?, vicious to the point of even treasonous retribution against those who cross them?, massive deception of the public?, illegal ruthless invasion of foreign nation for access to oil?, on and on and on?)

Trump got hard-core Republicans publicly frothing and raging to overthrow democracy, and that included seditionist Republicans who'd already been placed in government. A continuation of what Republican leadership cabal had already started -- and lost control of to a whackjob "charismatic populist leader."

[dweller]

3. Works for me

LOCK HIM UP !

✌🏻

[malaise]

6. Charlie Dent says Trump should resign

More Bernstein coming up - Dent says send this to the DOJ - well beyond the pale - extortion attempt - ReTHUGS planning their suicide mission on Wednesday should run from him because this is going to end very badly.

[dweller]

8. Good

Needs to be repeated often

✌🏻

[Grins]

59. No. Impeached!!! Again! There's still time.

The full impeachment of Andrew Johnson took all of four days. Do it!!! Impeach and get rid of him now. Don’t let him near the inaugural platform on the 20th. Mark him as the first fully impeached and convicted president in history!

And if the Republicans in the Senate don’t vote to convict after all this -hang it on them for all time.

[malaise]

61. Agree

[sfstaxprep]

4. LOL!

Resign? LOL!

[LisaL]

5. The key words here are "the normal presidency."

Nothing about Trump has been normal.

[yuiyoshida]

58. This

Totally

[jalan48]

7. This ain't the 70's anymore Carl. Fairness and decency are long gone.

[dchill]

10. I think the phrase "in a normal Senate" is more apropos.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

55. After beating impeachment tRump felt enabled to 'ask a little favour' again, criminally. . . . nt

[Cozmo]

11. No wonder I feel so marvelous and giddy!

[Tommymac]

12. Hey Carl, in a normal Presidency this would not even happen.

But hey, this is the new normal, right?

[Solly Mack]

13. That requires decency, integrity, honor - & if those were present, we wouldn't be at this point now.

For him to resign.

Should mean another impeachment and a removal this time - but well, again....republicans. All lacking in decency, integrity, and honor.

[soldierant]

14. I have a better idea.

Involuntary commitment for psychiatric observation for 18 days.

Let him out as soon as he can be arrested.

[dhol82]

24. Now that is a brilliant idea!

He wouldn’t hand over power to Pence, just because.
He wouldn’t be able to do anything at all.
Bravo!

[soldierant]

26. Why, thank you.

[DallasNE]

15. This Happened Precisely Because

Congress failed to hold Trump accountable in a similar phone call with PM Zelinsky. When you don't hold them accountable they will feel empowered to repeat the crime. Republicans were disgusting last January and they are still disgusting this January. Hold them accountable for a change. Same with Cruz and all of the others. PUT THE FOOT DOWN.

[HUAJIAO]

22. "Congress" didn't fail to hold trump accountable...

REPUBLICANS did !

[dhol82]

25. Exactly this!

[turtleblossom]

27. His mommy and daddy failed to hold him accountable too

They should've whooped him. It was legal to do so back then.

[oldsoftie]

41. There ya go!

[Takket]

29. but Collnig said he had learned a valuable lesson!

[ewagner]

30. Senator Adam Schiff...

In his closing arguments in the Senate trial he SAID IF THEY DIDN'T FIND TRUMP GUILTY OF ATTEMPTED BRIBARY OF ZELINSKY THEN TRUMP WOULD DO IT AGAIN!


Schiff was a good prosecutor ...he knew what he was talking about.

[drray23]

38. congressman Schiff, not senator but yes he did warn us during his closing argument

as the impeachment manager for the house.

[malaise]

39. THIS

In the movie Schiff's entire speech will be read

[Bernardo de La Paz]

56. Neither call is bribery (note spelling). Both calls are extortion & abuse of power of office. . .nt

[ShazzieB]

53. Yes, yes, yes!

[Sogo]

16. As soon as Nancy is sworn in as Speaker,

we need to bombard her office with calls for impeachment.

Play the tape for the House = impeached.

Play the tape for the Senate = convicted.

Boom - Done.

Gone before 1/20/21.

[Hugin]

17. You owe me a new monitor, Bernstein.

NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

[BlueNProud]

18. Why is every Democrat is not calling for resignation?

[oldsoftie]

42. Probably because they just want the next 16 days to go by & be done with it all

Because they know he isnt going anywhere till then

[spanone]

19. nixon was a petty thief compared to trump

"In a normal presidency"....says it all

[triron]

64. Nixon was like a benign tumor, Trump is a malignancy.

How are malignancies normally treated (if possible)?

[HUAJIAO]

20. Thanks Carl. When did you figure this out?

forget trump.

It's-

REPUBLICANS

[Miigwech]

21. trump and every Senate repub that did not vote to impeach

needs to step down NOW. trump was proven guilty! They have betrayed our Nation and we need a clean sweep of politicians that bear faith and loyalty only to a party and to a man instead of to the Constitution and to our Country. They have clearly shown that they have failed for political reasons or personal ambitions. These men and women do not deserve to make our Laws, they can't be trusted, as they have shown. Who does that leave in the Senate besides Democrats? Mitt Romney?

[Oscarthegreat]

28. It is time

We have a time honored tradition of the armed forces staying out of domestic politics, but if there was a time for the military to get involved it is now. We have a president* who has blatantly tried to stage a coup after losing an election. The military is sworn to protect the Constitution. Staging a coup is a crime against the Constitution and in this case only the military can defend the nation against it. No US Marshall or FBI special agent is going to march into the oval office and arrest this traitor, but the military can and must. Now it should be in the hands of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and now it is his duty to fulfill his oath.

[oldsoftie]

45. The military can do no such thing. And there currently is no coup.

A coup would be removing the current government not the pending one. And the military isnt going to do it.
Now i'm sure there are other illegalities that trump would or is trying. But come thursday, it'll be over and all they can do is bitch and whine till the 20th

[Oscarthegreat]

48. I disagree

An attempt to reverse the election outcome through fraud by pressuring a state elected official to invent phantom votes is a crime against the Constitution. Whether we call it a coup, which in essence it is, as it's an attempt to prevent a president elect from taking office, or sedition, it is a crime against the Constitution, which the military is sworn to defend, hence they should arrest Trump and remove him.

[oldsoftie]

49. And Trump is still the commander in chief.

So theres that to deal

[Bernardo de La Paz]

57. They can't, legally. There is no lawful mechanism for them to remove a president

You can't point to a law. Waving the Constitution around is not a reference to a law.

The "coup", as you call it with some justification, is powered in part by calls from the right wing to "uphold the constitution". Their theory is that Biden stole the election and that they are just doing constitutional duty to take it back.

Them waving the Constitution over that is just as meaningless as you waving the Constitution in an attempt to get the military to break the law.

Doesn't work like that in both cases.

[obamanut2012]

50. no

[malaise]

40. but her emals

[badboy67]

32. The GOP don't care.

They're done with democracy, the rule of law, the U. S. Constitution, and free and fair elections.

[dbonds]

34. Don't resign now just so Pence could pardon him. Wait 3 weeks.

[Hiawatha Pete]

35. K&R for visibility

[The Wizard]

37. If Trump resigns it will be to avoid federal prison.

[TheRickles]

43. Any idea how the Post got access to the recording?

Heads will probably roll.

[oldsoftie]

46. I wouldnt be surprised if Ga's Sec of State gave it to them.

Then again, it could have come from TRUMPS side?

[malaise]

47. Trump tweeted about the call and Raffensperger said the truth will come out - then it did

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article248246235.html

A leaked phone call Saturday in which President Donald Trump pressured Georgia election officials to find more votes for his re-election has sparked a wave of backlash.

In the hour-long call, first released by The Washington Post on Sunday, Trump cajoles, begs and threatens Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find 11,780 votes” needed to overturn President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the state. Raffensperger politely stands his ground and eventually ends the call.

After the call, Trump wrote in a Twitter post that Raffensperger was “unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!” The leaked audio shows Georgia officials pushing back on Trump’s unfounded accusations.

“Respectfully, President Trump: What you’re saying is not true,” Raffensperger replied on Twitter. “The truth will come out.”

[TheRickles]

52. Has there been any speculation about who leaked the recording to the Post?

[BobTheSubgenius]

66. I don't believe it is "speculation."

Raffensperger said he wouldn't have released it, if Drumpf hadn't revealed the parts that he felt served him.

[TheRickles]

67. Thanks!

[BobTheSubgenius]

44. But in this political climate, it will probably lead to a frustrating but impenetrable wall.

[myohmy2]

51. +1...

...again, when is criminal conduct going to start having criminal consequences?

...are fascists immune?

...

[StevieM]

54. I've lost count of all the impeachable offenses Trump has committed over the last 4 years. (eom)

[badboy67]

60. Now, is GOP an accomplice after the fact?

Co-conspirator?

[burrowowl]

63. I think so!

[BobTheSubgenius]

62. For someone that's covered DC politics for as long as he has,

he strikes me as having a rather naive view of how the business works now. Maybe it's just him, reminiscing about a kinder, gentler time.