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nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:28 PM Oct 2012

Big Ed has another story about those miners; forced to be props w/o pay for the Romney campaign.

On after the break.

I think I caught a highlight for the show saying the were also told they had to donate $$ to the Romney campaign.

Check out The Ed Show - on now!

Update: Romney thanked the boss. Murry pressures salaried employees to donate to "acceptable" Repub candidates via payroll deduction and company tracked who gave and who didn't. Says it's a routine practice. Vendors and outside contractors are also pressured to donate to acceptable Repub. candidates.

Those that didn't were talked to by supervisors. Said some employees don't mind but others don't like it. Says it can get "personal".

Murray has a PAC - Murray PAC and supports Scott Brown, Rand Paul and others.

Nasty piece.

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Big Ed has another story about those miners; forced to be props w/o pay for the Romney campaign. (Original Post) nc4bo Oct 2012 OP
The CEO Murray looks like Boss Hogg. muntrv Oct 2012 #1
He seems horrible outside and in. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #2
Not just employees but contractors with this company were shaken down by Murray. Skidmore Oct 2012 #3
OMG - I couldn't believe what I was hearing Skidmore. I thought it sounds fishy but who knows. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #4
Isn't this illegal? C_U_L8R Oct 2012 #5
Well it's out in public now. We shall see, hopefully. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #6
Seems like extortion to me, of all the gall! nt Raine Oct 2012 #7
When dealing w/anything Republican, sometimes I have to check the calendar for the current year. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #8
This happened 5 miles from where I live in Wheeling WV. ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #9
Oh JHC - really?!! nc4bo Oct 2012 #11
It's happening now, today, they broke the Union. ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #13
Republican dream come true - that explains the donations to Scott Walker, Rand Paul and other nc4bo Oct 2012 #15
Hi Arnold - Rayland here... n/t thatgemguy Oct 2012 #16
Hi I work about 1 mile from you at Yorkville Steel Mill ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #18
I believe Ed repeats later tonight but I'm sure interview will be online. nc4bo Oct 2012 #10
Wow! I thought that was against the law. Cleita Oct 2012 #12
God, so do I. Reminds me of the "Company Store" days nc4bo Oct 2012 #14
K&R ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #17
ThinkProgress has the entire story on their website.....link. nc4bo Oct 2012 #19
Mine bosses are scum entanglement Oct 2012 #20
I just don't see how this can possibly be legal. Brigid Oct 2012 #21
It's illegal in Ohio to shake down employees, or anyone, for political contributions meow2u3 Oct 2012 #22
Why does this sound so familiar ashling Oct 2012 #23

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
3. Not just employees but contractors with this company were shaken down by Murray.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:36 PM
Oct 2012

Is this not illegal?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
4. OMG - I couldn't believe what I was hearing Skidmore. I thought it sounds fishy but who knows. nm
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:37 PM
Oct 2012

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
8. When dealing w/anything Republican, sometimes I have to check the calendar for the current year. nm
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:42 PM
Oct 2012

ArnoldLayne

(2,067 posts)
9. This happened 5 miles from where I live in Wheeling WV.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:45 PM
Oct 2012

A few of my friends that work for Murray Coal or Energy told me about this but no one believes them. This is happening all over in Appalachia Coal Country but no one cares.

ArnoldLayne

(2,067 posts)
13. It's happening now, today, they broke the Union.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:58 PM
Oct 2012

They have no choice, they do what Boss Bob Murray says or they get fired simple as that. But no one cares they are told be lucky you have a job.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
15. Republican dream come true - that explains the donations to Scott Walker, Rand Paul and other
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:03 PM
Oct 2012

anti-American monsters.

I'm sure this has all made Murray's company another perfect role model for Republican's Plan for America.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
10. I believe Ed repeats later tonight but I'm sure interview will be online.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:46 PM
Oct 2012

Unbelievable unless you hear it for yourself.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. Wow! I thought that was against the law.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

I once worked at a job where they forced us to donate to the Community Chest through a payroll deduction. It turns out it was illegal so they had to stop. I hope there is still a law out there protecting workers from having to donate to causes they don't support.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
14. God, so do I. Reminds me of the "Company Store" days
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 08:59 PM
Oct 2012

Even reminds me of workers who live in some 3rd world country, not here!

.....just horrible.

These guys work hard and their lives are at risk every single day. They don't deserve to be treated like this!

The owner is a monster. He should be forced to work side by side with those miners for a year - he needs to respect them and they deserve to be treated fairly!

He and his company should be investigated!

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
19. ThinkProgress has the entire story on their website.....link.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:31 PM
Oct 2012
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/05/966981/coal-workers-say-murray-energy-coerces-them-to-make-gop-donations-if-you-dont-contribute-your-jobs-at-stake/

This spring, Murray organized a fundraiser for Mitt Romney, eventually bundling more than a million and half dollars for the candidate. According to the New Republic, employees of Murray Energy have donated more than $1.4 million to Republican candidates — with $120,000 raised for Romney this campaign season alone.

While employees say Murray does not explicitly force them to make donations, he makes it very clear what could happen if they don’t contribute some of their salary to Republicans. “We have been insulted by every salaried employee who does not support our efforts,” he wrote in one 2012 letter obtained by the New Republic.

And in a 2011 letter to company managers, Murray alluded to potential consequences if employees did not donate: “Please see that our salaried employees ‘step up,’ for their own sakes and those of their employees.”

Other national candidates supported by the “coerced” donations of coal workers include House Speaker John Boehner, Scott Brown, Rand Paul, David Vitter, and Congress’ most aggressive climate denier, Jim Inhofe. “Hopefully you will support every one of these friends of coal,” wrote Murray to his employees.

Murray, who is a fierce defender of the coal industry, is also a fierce climate denier. He has called climate change a “theory” and has blamed climate scientists for supposedly “perpetuating fraud.”

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
22. It's illegal in Ohio to shake down employees, or anyone, for political contributions
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:01 PM
Oct 2012
3517.09 Coercing political contributions

(B) No person shall coerce, intimidate, or cause harm to another person by an act or failure to act, or shall threaten to coerce, intimidate, or cause harm to another person, because that other person makes or does not make a contribution to a candidate, campaign committee, political party, legislative campaign fund, political action committee, political contributing entity, or person making disbursements to pay the direct costs of producing or airing electioneering communications.



ashling

(25,771 posts)
23. Why does this sound so familiar
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 02:22 AM
Oct 2012

Oh, yes . . . in 1960 my father started working as a medical director for Gulf Oil in Houston, Texas over various regions - South, Southwest, etc. depending on how the split it up. He even went to Lagos, Nigeria for Gulf. . While in this job he served as president of the Texas Industrial Medical Association and taught at Rice University,He was very respected among the medical and any other employees he ever worked with.

Then, in 1969, the Gulf muckedy mucks decided that they would use their political mussel to elect a Senator from Texas. That year, Lloyd Bentsen won the Democratic primary, beating the incumbent Senator Ralph Yarborough. My dad had supported Ralph since forever and even donated to him after his loss so that he could retire the debt.

Gulf decided to throw in with the Republican candidate, an oil man from west Texas by the name of - get ready for it - George Herbert Walker Bush. They instructed their people to give money to GB. Daddy would not. He gave more to Ralph.

I remember in December when the head medical officer from Pittsburgh came down to Houston. My dad made all the arrangements, picked him up at the airport, and even had him and his son out to the house. He always did that every time he visited the office in Houston, but never got the same courtesies when he visited Pittsburgh. Hell, my brother, a friend or his, and I even took his stuck up son to see the Cotton Bowl in Dallas where UT beat Notre Dame.

Shorty after this visit my dad started hearing from friends in the know that he was in trouble for not donating to Bush. He was transferred to New Orleans, which for Gulf was sort of a backwater. He would be the only medical person there - they didn't even have a medical office there.

Now I know that many of you might think that New Orleans would be a great place to be sent, but none of us had wanted this. The whole move was stressful. Fortunately, daddy had very good friends with Gulf in New Orleans and since Gulf owned a building there with an empty floor, my dad got to design facilities to be built. He and I designed the office ( I had taken drafting in Jr. High) that was kind of cool, but having to stay in a long term hotel etc. out by the lake was stressful.

Now we come to the "Bain" of the experience. My Mom was a real super mom and got us through a lot. She held it all together while Daddy was looking for a house to buy. She was great at being everywhere all the time. Oh, she missed something every now and then - like a doctor's appointment - but not much.

I started college that fall at Millsaps in Jackson, MS. It is hard to explain all the ways in which my mother made our lives. Well, the next year, when I was a sophomore, my mom's one missed appointment came home, and not in a good way. You see, if she had made it to that appointment, it is pretty likely that they would have been able to catch the cancer. She was given about 2 months.

Mom was a fighter, and she was able to be with us for about 2 years before the end. We were able to move back to Houston - my mom on a special air ambulence, the fall of the next year - and my dad continued his job where he was before. I remember vividly that December when my mom was feeling better and she cooked a fine supper of eye round roast. That was the last one. Shortly after Christmas she went into a coma that lasted a couple of months. Miraculously she came out of the coma - though she was not able to get out of her hospital bed. She was even strong enough to cuss out Richard Nixon on the TV. She was mad because the enemies list had just hit the news, and she wasn't on the list.

In July she went into another coma and died on the morning of July 13, 1973.


This year I got so mad when the worker (I can't remember his name) who'd wife had died a few years after being fired by Bain. The pundits from CNN and their sister network Fox kept going on about how it was unfair to blame Bain for his wife's death. That is not what that was about, and if they had gotten down off of their high horses long enough to listen, they would have known that!

Anyway, sorry about the rant ... it just sort of got away from me.

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