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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 09:43 AM Jan 2021

The Republicans are going to vote to "certify" Donald Trump as the Leader of this country.

The Democrats are going to vote to "certify" the new President of the United States.

Contrary to the Constitution, the wishes of the majority of voters in this country, and the Electoral College, the Republicans are going to vote to dismantle the Reagan Revolution and their long-established conservative traditions.

It is no longer about political philosophy. It is about a cult of personality.

For their Leader, they are willing to betray everything they have professed to be sacred.

No one should feel sorry for them. They have made every decision with their eyes wide open.

We should only feel sorry for the damage they have done to our country and our historical institutions.

In the strangest of bedfellows, moderate and conservative Republicans must unite with moderate and liberal Democrats to defend our democracy from the radical and reactionary Trump Party.

Politics must take a back seat to survival.

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JI7

(89,276 posts)
4. Which Republicans ? Aren't most Republican Senators accepting Biden won and not going along with the
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jan 2021

shit ?

gab13by13

(21,409 posts)
7. I don't think Republicans get to vote,
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 09:57 AM
Jan 2021

the electors report their votes and they are recorded and then there is a time for objections after the votes have already been recorded.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
9. They are voting with their "objections".
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:01 AM
Jan 2021

They "object" to the election and the process.

Few believe they will be successful, but it is the symbolism and reality of their politics after their vote that is the problem.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
10. The majority in both the House and Senate are going to certify Biden as President.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:18 AM
Jan 2021

There is nothing anyone can do to change that. Pence has no control over it. Enough Republican Senators have already spoken out saying they are not going along with it, and we know how the House will turn out.

It is all just a show. No need to worry (though I will be happy on the 20th that at least Trump will quit fighting and will be running for his life from being arrested).

Voltaire2

(13,199 posts)
11. There is a straight line from Reagan to Trump and Nixon was their role model.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:19 AM
Jan 2021

The right wing in the US has been authoritarian/fascist since the 1930s. Nixon established the authoritarian executive role model. Reagan put the executive branch out of reach from congressional oversight with the Iran-Contra affair, nullifying the watergate era reforms. He also started the militarization of police forces with his amped up version of Nixon's War On Drugs. Bush/Cheney established the domestic framework for overt fascist rule with the patriot act, and initiated the Endless War, providing the justification for fascism as a defense against external threat. Trump just inherited their 50 years of efforts to make It Happen Here.

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