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Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 09:55 AM Jan 2021

Why Georgia? Why not other states? I think I know why. It is Stacy Abrams.

Trump got his ass kick by a Black Woman and he can't deal with that simple fact.

I said it before and I will say it again and again. Stacy Abrams should have been Time's Person of the Year.

You need only listen to her speak to begin to grasp what a serious, competent, determined person she is.

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Why Georgia? Why not other states? I think I know why. It is Stacy Abrams. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 OP
A competent, accomplished Black woman whom repukes tried to suppress! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #1
A Republican has not lost presidential vote there in 28 years (Bill Clinton) hlthe2b Jan 2021 #2
Georgia voted for Clinton in 1992. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #11
Bill Clinton (1992), not Jimmy Carter (1976/1980) n/t DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #13
Right. Corrected. hlthe2b Jan 2021 #27
I agree with you OLDMDDEM Jan 2021 #3
NO! NOT DNC chair! StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #29
I never felt that way about Howard Dean. He was ALBliberal Jan 2021 #41
Howard Dean was chair during a Republican president's term StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #42
Agree. ALBliberal Jan 2021 #45
You have a good point. OLDMDDEM Jan 2021 #57
Perhaps that was part of Trump's thinking PJMcK Jan 2021 #4
Stacey yes but....I think you are correct. With an all-R state slate, he thought they would listen.. machoneman Jan 2021 #8
Maybe because a flip back to him with GA would help Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #52
And, at least he could FINALLY walk away with a "W" from this pathetic exercise. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #54
Which sets the stage to claim fraud everywhere... zaj Jan 2021 #12
I mean, in Trump's contorted mind, maybe greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #37
That's mostly it, I think. Harker Jan 2021 #21
In Other Words, He Thinks They're His Core Supporters!!! COL Mustard Jan 2021 #26
+1000 KPN Jan 2021 #30
He tried to persuade the Republican people luvtheGWN Jan 2021 #49
Also both the R SOS and R gov are known for large scale voter suppression, so he probably figured it Amaryllis Jan 2021 #59
I was literally thinking the very same thing yesterday. bullwinkle428 Jan 2021 #5
Let's not forget Nse Ufot who is also incredible Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #6
We're not! Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #35
Other states have Democratic officials. apcalc Jan 2021 #7
That's exactly the reason, gab13by13 Jan 2021 #32
Black People --he hates that mshasta Jan 2021 #9
I believe if Abrams brings 2 democratic victories, Biden is naming her Attorney General and unleash beachbumbob Jan 2021 #10
That would be awesome judesedit Jan 2021 #15
very LITTLE explanation with Biden NOT naming his AG unless its Abrams and not naming her was beachbumbob Jan 2021 #19
She said she wants to run for Governor again JI7 Jan 2021 #25
she would not turn down being AG, have a great impact than just being an governor beachbumbob Jan 2021 #44
In his rally yesterday, Trump said the Georgia officials are afraid of Abrams... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2021 #14
Completely agree! K&R mountain grammy Jan 2021 #16
That makes sense... Trump really has an issue with strong women. ananda Jan 2021 #17
She is great in interviews. twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #18
Stacy is an absolute force. And if Georgia turns blue, it will be 100% because of her... SKKY Jan 2021 #20
Just think, if ACORN had not been thrown under the bus, all states where they had networks Hestia Jan 2021 #22
Flipping GA does NOT alter the election Dukkha Jan 2021 #23
THIS a thousand times. She has changed an entire R B Garr Jan 2021 #24
She is an unbelievable woman. And she can't be deterred from the goal. "Eyes on the Prize".... George II Jan 2021 #28
Stacy Abrams deserves all the credit in the world... appmanga Jan 2021 #31
I think that her abilities call for a wnylib Jan 2021 #40
if trump can get one State to turn back - he'll argue it proves he's won the other ones samsingh Jan 2021 #33
Georgia is a blue state, but greymattermom Jan 2021 #34
Georgia is a moderate state, now and probably for a long time to come. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #36
"Fair Fight" Historic NY Jan 2021 #38
If she runs for governor in GA , wnylib Jan 2021 #46
I think it's strategic. GA is the only state still "in play" where he can (and has) leveraged Mike 03 Jan 2021 #39
Nope: Republican Secretary of State brooklynite Jan 2021 #43
We don't know he didn't do this in other states. D23MIURG23 Jan 2021 #47
She's hands down the Dems' MVP for the 2020 season. TheRickles Jan 2021 #48
One of my Favorites marieo1 Jan 2021 #50
Why Georgia? Because voter suppression was strong there FakeNoose Jan 2021 #51
Also, GA is the only SoS they can touch. apnu Jan 2021 #53
President someday, I hope! tblue37 Jan 2021 #55
Also it is very much a red state while the others are swing states. LizBeth Jan 2021 #56
Because the GOP worked tirelessly to supress the vote there MissMillie Jan 2021 #58

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
1. A competent, accomplished Black woman whom repukes tried to suppress!
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:02 AM
Jan 2021

Talk about making lemonaid out of lemons!

Just WOW!

Stacey Abrams is a powerhouse! A force to he reckoned with!

Ty, Stacey!!!

PS - If her efforts deliver the Senate in today's election, this could push agent orange over the edge!

hlthe2b

(102,383 posts)
2. A Republican has not lost presidential vote there in 28 years (Bill Clinton)
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:04 AM
Jan 2021

and it was (in his mind) the ultimate Confederate stronghold, now that VA has gone blue for several cycles. So, I think this, plus the fact his campaign never even considered losing GA is what has him rankled. Sure he detests Stacy (and all those AA who voted against HIM), but I think he considered himself the leader of the "rise again, Confederacy" movement and all that that entails.

OLDMDDEM

(1,577 posts)
3. I agree with you
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jan 2021

That Stacey Abrams is a great person. But, Times Person of the Year should be the first responders, doctors, nurses, etc. Stacey should be the next DNC Chairman.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
29. NO! NOT DNC chair!
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jan 2021

DNC chair under a Democratic president is a nothing job - a mere figurehead/functionary reporting to the president's people, which is way beneath her.

ALBliberal

(2,346 posts)
41. I never felt that way about Howard Dean. He was
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:35 AM
Jan 2021

transformational. And Stacey would be as well. I think it depends on who is the DNC chair.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
42. Howard Dean was chair during a Republican president's term
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

That's a different thing. The DNC chair under a Republican president is essentially the head of the party, determines the party strategy and calls the political shots.

But when a Democrat is president, the president and his campaign team are in charge of the party and, as I said, the DNC chair is little more than a functionary who just implements the strategy set by the White House. That is not a position for someone like Stacey Abrams. I don't think there's any way in hell she'd take the job and I sincerely doubt Biden would insult her by offering it to her.

PJMcK

(22,052 posts)
4. Perhaps that was part of Trump's thinking
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jan 2021

Another reason could be that Georgia, unlike other swing states, has a Republican governor, a Republican Secretary of State and a Republican dominated legislature. If there were any state that Trump could flip the votes, Georgia would be his best shot.

But, as with every endeavor of his pathetic life, Trump will fail at this, too.

He's dangerous but he's also an idiot.

machoneman

(4,012 posts)
8. Stacey yes but....I think you are correct. With an all-R state slate, he thought they would listen..
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:13 AM
Jan 2021

...to him and swing the votes away from President Biden (what a nice ring to it, eh?) and give him GA's votes.

Strangely, even if he succeeded, he's still lose the EC vote anyway. Makes no sense but hey, it's Trump!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
52. Maybe because a flip back to him with GA would help
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jan 2021

substantiate his bogus claim about election fraud. " See, I told you the WHOLE election was bogus" ?

Harker

(14,040 posts)
21. That's mostly it, I think.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jan 2021

He also likely views Georgia as a "shithole" state populated by unsophisticated people who would be gullible and dazzled by his charismatic aura.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
49. He tried to persuade the Republican people
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jan 2021

in the other swing states (he invited the Michigan Reps to the WH).

It may well have been his visceral hatred for Abrams, but since all the other states turned him down, he thought maybe, just maybe, he could exert enough influence on the Georgia Repubs. But it still wouldn't have been enough, so I'm thinking if they "found" more votes he would be "justified" in his claim of election fraud.

Tomorrow will be a circus, for sure. Let's hope the circus tent collapses on the lot of them and buries them in traitorous notoriety.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
59. Also both the R SOS and R gov are known for large scale voter suppression, so he probably figured it
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jan 2021

would be easy pickings.

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
7. Other states have Democratic officials.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:10 AM
Jan 2021

Democratic governors, secs of state, attorney generals. He knows he can’t get anywhere with them.
I’m sure Stacey sticks in his craw. She is knowledgeable, competent and turned Ga.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
10. I believe if Abrams brings 2 democratic victories, Biden is naming her Attorney General and unleash
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:28 AM
Jan 2021

her and the DOJ on all states that suppress the vote.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
19. very LITTLE explanation with Biden NOT naming his AG unless its Abrams and not naming her was
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:38 AM
Jan 2021

to prevent the distraction from the runoff. I think she is the nominee no matter what the final outcome is.

Imagine trump/family dealing with 2 BLACK FEMALE AGs, what a fitting play to end their days

ananda

(28,878 posts)
17. That makes sense... Trump really has an issue with strong women.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jan 2021

Remember when he went after Whitmer in Michigan also?

SKKY

(11,824 posts)
20. Stacy is an absolute force. And if Georgia turns blue, it will be 100% because of her...
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:40 AM
Jan 2021

...efforts registering voters.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
22. Just think, if ACORN had not been thrown under the bus, all states where they had networks
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:43 AM
Jan 2021

set up would already be swinging or swung blue. But it seems not everyone looks good in HD makeup or wants to be Big Chief instead of doing the hard work and going up the chain and earning their positions through time.

This is not miraculous, it is called reinventing the wheel.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
23. Flipping GA does NOT alter the election
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:44 AM
Jan 2021

He still comes up short of electoral votes. So yeah it's a personal grudge.

R B Garr

(16,992 posts)
24. THIS a thousand times. She has changed an entire
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:45 AM
Jan 2021

state—a Southern state! She is the future of our party, and I have such confidence every time I hear her speak. She is formidable.

I think you’re right about Trump’s obsession with Georgia. He probably thought that Georgia would be the path of least resistance and the most easily explained since he’s banking on the racism there. He brought her up in that call (I think that’s where I heard it), saying that the Republicans there were afraid of her. So we know she was on his mind.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. She is an unbelievable woman. And she can't be deterred from the goal. "Eyes on the Prize"....
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:49 AM
Jan 2021

...was written for her.

Even this weekend, when she appeared on either CNN or MSNBC, she was asked again, "would you like to be offered a position in the Biden administration", she didn't even blink and answered "my focus right now is Tuesday and winning those two Senate seats*"

(* paraphrased, but pretty close)

appmanga

(583 posts)
31. Stacy Abrams deserves all the credit in the world...
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:55 AM
Jan 2021

...and should have any job in the Democratic politisphere she wants. Like Howard Dean did so many years ago, she showed that when Democrats show up and compete hard, it pays off. Having a new 50 State Strategy is going to be necessary if the Democrats are going to maintain what they have, much less increase their numbers. There's no doubt she'd be an effective party chair.

wnylib

(21,621 posts)
40. I think that her abilities call for a
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jan 2021

higher level position than party chair. She would make an excellent AG.

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
33. if trump can get one State to turn back - he'll argue it proves he's won the other ones
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:03 AM
Jan 2021

he'll use that to raise money and create more civil unrest

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
34. Georgia is a blue state, but
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:12 AM
Jan 2021

voter suppression and gerrymandering have kept it red, until Stacey and her massive effort that is still ongoing. We have Marjorie Taylor Greene representing the Great White North.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
38. "Fair Fight"
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:23 AM
Jan 2021

I made several donations, she followed up with a holiday thank you. Stacy should be the governor and Democrats everywhere should help her defeat Kemp in the next election

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
39. I think it's strategic. GA is the only state still "in play" where he can (and has) leveraged
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jan 2021

the anger and anxiety of Republicans to pressure the governor, SoS and election officials to give Trump what he wants. That is not possible in any other state, because all the other elections are over. The senate race is a huge deal.

He even got Purdue and Loeffler to call for the resignation of some top officials.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
47. We don't know he didn't do this in other states.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jan 2021

I don't doubt that Stacie Abrams played a part in his inability to accept losing GA, but my assumption is that there are other phone calls like the one to Raffisburger.

He tried to corrupt people in MI too. He called the republicans in charge of certifying the Wayne county vote directly, and we don't have audio for those calls.

You aren't wrong, but I think the most correct answer is that he felt entitled to all these states, and hes furious that he didn't get something he felt entitled to.

TheRickles

(2,085 posts)
48. She's hands down the Dems' MVP for the 2020 season.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jan 2021

Or maybe the Sixth Player award, since she wasn't in the limelight like Biden and Harris were.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
51. Why Georgia? Because voter suppression was strong there
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jan 2021

... until Stacey Abrams shone her white-hot spotlight on it. We all know that Abrams would be the governor of Georgia right now, if it weren't for voter suppression. But she didn't give up and slink away, she's in there punching hard for every Democratic vote.

I think Chump has miscalculated how effective Stacey Abrams can be in inspiring new young voters to be registered and ready to take up her fight. The Repukes have found their hill to die on, and it's all happening this week.

Thank you Stacey Abrams for making this happen. I'm so glad you're on the good guys' team!


apnu

(8,759 posts)
53. Also, GA is the only SoS they can touch.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jan 2021

AZ, MI, WI, and PA all have Democratic SoS. If Trump's minions reached out, they likely were told to fuck off.

NV has a Republican SoS, Barbara Cegavske, but the GOP isn't flirting with her.

So Brad is the one guy who might pick up the phone and do something.

Yes Stacey Abrams is a major factor. Give the number of times Trump complained about her in that call, she's living rent free in his head right now. But also Trump thinks he can apply his leverage on GA because of party affiliation. Stacey is just a component off the toxic slop that is Trump's brain.

MissMillie

(38,583 posts)
58. Because the GOP worked tirelessly to supress the vote there
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jan 2021

They *KNOW* the results are "fake" because they rigged GA in their favor.

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