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BellaKos

(318 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:00 PM Oct 2012

About Big Bird

We're all having a big laugh about Big Bird, but the fact that this particular issue resonated among so many people speaks to something in the collective unconscious of the population.
Big Bird, as a symbol, represents the progressive ideal of free access to education for all and connects with a level of awareness beyond words. Romney's callous and casual dismissal of that beloved symbol demonstrated that he really is willing to put Wall Street above the interests of everyone else -- even the nation's children. Fortunately, the American public intuited that immediately the night of the debate.
The explosion on Twitter that night reveals that Romney made a huge mistake when he threw some "red meat" to his base by dismissing Big Bird. I doubt that most people were very attentive to the wonkish details that followed. Contrary to the opinions of pundits, the threat to Big Bird was the most significant element of this debate, because it touched people deeply in the collective unconscious that connects with childhood, children, and the mists of fond memories.
In this symbolic realm, Romney is forever the "Grinch," "Scrooge," and, of course, Thurston Howell III.

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About Big Bird (Original Post) BellaKos Oct 2012 OP
Nailed it! Xipe Totec Oct 2012 #1
Mr. Potter looks like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny compared to Romney. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #2
Don't say that about Thurston Howell III! Mr. Howell came to be a loveable curmudgeon... Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #3
And as teens we DevonRex Oct 2012 #4
Right Devon.. I didn't appreciate Cha Oct 2012 #9
Expecially absurd that the only specific detail of his deficit/debt reduction plan he'll share... pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #5
Just as a note, Thurston Howell was a thoughtless old patrician, not a vulture capitalist alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #6
Fuck Rmoney. Big Bird R Us. MichiganVote Oct 2012 #7
We are all Big Bird flamingdem Oct 2012 #8
Hey, I want that avatar too! yardwork Oct 2012 #14
If you click right you should be able to download it? nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #18
Done! Thank you. yardwork Oct 2012 #41
sqwakk!1! nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #42
"We are all Big Bird" marions ghost Oct 2012 #43
sqwwwak!! nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #44
Big Bird is BIG! rgbecker Oct 2012 #10
Not just Romney... josh3693 Oct 2012 #11
GO TEAM BIG BIRD!! Blue Belle Oct 2012 #12
Big Bird is huge to those of us of in Gen X. Jennicut Oct 2012 #13
Yep. Sesame Street is the first show I can remember.... and Mitt wants to kill it. reformist2 Oct 2012 #17
Big Bird, bah, humbug JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2012 #15
Too late... AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #39
this video says it all DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #16
$450M funding =1 year of PBS or 6 hours of Pentagon spending... Good catch. freshwest Oct 2012 #20
I couldn't believe they brought up Pentagon spending. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #32
I was both amazed and pleased myself by that factoid. freshwest Oct 2012 #33
Sometimes we laugh when we want to cry. I've done both listening to the old Doo Wop song "The Bird" cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #19
Very well said. n/t NCarolinawoman Oct 2012 #21
Fozzie Bear agrees! James48 Oct 2012 #22
Even the rich like Big Bird and Elmo bluemarkers Oct 2012 #23
Loved Lawrence O'donnell clip last night Liberalynn Oct 2012 #26
missed it bluemarkers Oct 2012 #38
Well, your comment bolsters my point. BellaKos Oct 2012 #34
You wrote a great post! bluemarkers Oct 2012 #37
See, with Republicons marions ghost Oct 2012 #45
Oooooo! James48 Oct 2012 #24
Romney - enemy of public televiosn Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #25
I learned to count in Spanish thanks to Big Bird... Up2Late Oct 2012 #27
Good call! wakemewhenitsover Oct 2012 #28
I was disgusted at the fuss over big bird when R lied so badly about other stuff SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #29
Sometimes one image, one symbol marions ghost Oct 2012 #46
Actually, this is about values. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #30
Exactly. BellaKos Oct 2012 #35
Everyone knows BigBird--he's a gentle friend to children BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #31
Very simple: Romney's heartless. Period. lindysalsagal Oct 2012 #36
I am not laughing. IdaBriggs Oct 2012 #40
Big Bird is symbolic of acceptance, education, and all things Democrats love lunatica Oct 2012 #47

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
2. Mr. Potter looks like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny compared to Romney.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:05 PM
Oct 2012

Mitt is in deep trouble with this bonehead move.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. Don't say that about Thurston Howell III! Mr. Howell came to be a loveable curmudgeon...
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:08 PM
Oct 2012

who did his best to be one of the regular castaways (although he couldn't be, really). Mr. Howell would NEVER have put his dog for a 12 hour ride on the top of his car!

There, now. Mr. HOwell's reputation has been saved.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
4. And as teens we
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:13 PM
Oct 2012

got annoyed at our moms watching Masterpiece Theater yet not many years later we were watching it ourselves, religiously.

PBS is almost a cradle to grave learning and entertainment channel for us all.

Big Bird Rules!

Cha

(297,317 posts)
9. Right Devon.. I didn't appreciate
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:38 PM
Oct 2012

Masterpiece Theater and now I'm all over it..especially Downton Abbey on their website.

I didn't grow up with Sesame Street but had kids by the time Sesame Street/AKA/The Children's Workshop Network was started in 1969 so they were able to be a part of it.

Wisely.."Big Bird is flying above Romney fray"..

A day after the Twitterverse exploded in reaction to Mitt Romney's vow to fire Big Bird by cutting federal funding to PBS, "Sesame Street" declined to enter the political fray, turning down requests from TV talk shows for an appearance by the giant yellow avian.


"People are certainly talking about it," says PBS spokeswoman Anne Bentley. "Moms, parents, teachers and educators have been vocal in their support today."


http://www.freep.com/article/20121005/ENT03/121005008/Big-Bird-tries-to-fly-above-Romney-fray

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. Expecially absurd that the only specific detail of his deficit/debt reduction plan he'll share...
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:13 PM
Oct 2012

...is cutting Big Bird.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. Just as a note, Thurston Howell was a thoughtless old patrician, not a vulture capitalist
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

It's an important point: the kind of insane abuser class that Romney is both part of and represents really emerged with neoliberalism, post-Gilligan era. It was an invention of the 50's, to be sure, but really didn't develop a coherent philosophy and form of action until the 1970's. What is being parodied by Thurston Howell is a wholly different animal, and one far less dangerous.

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
10. Big Bird is BIG!
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:44 PM
Oct 2012

Romney, out of touch, pokes at America's uniting icon. Idiot. Do not let this guy into a position of power talking to other leaders of the world.

josh3693

(18 posts)
11. Not just Romney...
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:47 PM
Oct 2012

But Republicans in general have been railing against the National Endowment for the Arts for as long as I can remember. This seems like a great opportunity to take some wind out of a lot of down ballot Republican candidates. Maybe an ad that begins with Romney's comment, followed by Obama's and then proceeds to rail against whichever local candidate has voted for or proposed cuts to the NEA.

It's like people here keep saying, the Big Bird thing went viral because it touches a lot of people on an emotional level. So many of us have very fond memories of PBS programming and would hate to see it taken away from the next generation.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. Big Bird is huge to those of us of in Gen X.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:55 PM
Oct 2012

And Gen Y too.

Suzi Parker at the Washington Post put it better then I could:

A collective stab pierced the heart of Generation X who grew up with Big Bird, Bert and Ernie and Oscar the Grouch as their best friends. I immediately thought, “Oh no, Big Bird will be unemployed if Romney wins.” I wasn't alone.
As is normal these days, Big Bird started trending on Twitter. Memes magically appeared on Facebook showing Big Bird sitting on a stoop holding a sign “Will Work For Food." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/10/04/big-bird-will-haunt-mitt-romney/

A collective stab to the heart of a generation that has turned around and let their own children enjoy Sesame Street. I know my girls loved Elmo, Count, Cookie Monster and of course, Big Bird himself. They have grown out of it a bit at 7 and 8 but still watch a Halloween Elmo video every year. Screw you Mitt. You are nearly as bad as Hollywood at trying to destroy every sacred memory of our childhoods (don't let me get into the Smurfs remake!). That last part was sarcasm.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. $450M funding =1 year of PBS or 6 hours of Pentagon spending... Good catch.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:44 PM
Oct 2012
This is why we can't have nice things...

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
19. Sometimes we laugh when we want to cry. I've done both listening to the old Doo Wop song "The Bird"
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:30 PM
Oct 2012

performed by Big Bird, himself. That covers memories back to the 60's ... 50-some years and covers at least 3 generations of the collective unconscious. I remember they said that the genius of Sesame Street was that it was really an adult program produced as a children's program. Moms and Dads loved it, too. Great assessment.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
23. Even the rich like Big Bird and Elmo
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

but you know what if mr smarty pants hadn't mentioned big bird by name and simply kept his threats leveled to Lerher, this wouldn't be a talking point.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
26. Loved Lawrence O'donnell clip last night
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oct 2012

of Elmo leaning against Kermit and saying Elmo is very sad. Got to love the Elmo. Who can be mean to Elmo?

BellaKos

(318 posts)
34. Well, your comment bolsters my point.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:43 AM
Oct 2012

Romney blurted out Big Bird much the same as when he told the Brits that they weren't ready for the Olympics. Even when prepped (and possibly drugged?), he still can't refrain from steppin' in it. I suspect that he *thought* that he was merely checking "red meat to the base" off his list when he attacked PBS, but he has made another grave mistake. This issue will follow him for the duration of our collective ordeal as we watch the man contort himself until election day.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
37. You wrote a great post!
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:46 AM
Oct 2012

The Big Bird comment came across as callous - who knew that "firing a puppet" would raise such a firestorm? I mean the gop has convinced some folks to starve the hungry, and reject medical care for the sick, but take away "my" Big Bird? Take away from "them" but not "me".

I have several gop friends who appear to be suffering from a dissociation in politics syndrome. One actually wrote on FB that she thought Obama had a bigger heart, but that Rmoney was smarter and the debates proved it. huh?

I feel this will follow him as well, I agree with you 100%.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
45. See, with Republicons
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 05:18 PM
Oct 2012

Big hearts and smarts don't go together...

"Nice guys finish last" -- the slogan you have to live by in order to amass a large fortune by stepping on people & pushing them aside...

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
27. I learned to count in Spanish thanks to Big Bird...
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oct 2012

...and the rest of Sesame Street! His throwing Big Bird under the bus was very offensive to me.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
29. I was disgusted at the fuss over big bird when R lied so badly about other stuff
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oct 2012

Then i realized it was the best thing ever because people who didn't watch the debate and even people who haven't been paying attention to the election at all were talking about Romney taking out Big Bird to fix the US. WINNING!!!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
46. Sometimes one image, one symbol
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

can carry a LOT of weight...

It says volumes about what Mitt stands for.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
30. Actually, this is about values.
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:42 PM
Oct 2012

Big Bird is about kindness.

This is something Republicans not only don't value but they think is a weakness. They look at everything with aggression. If it can be defeated. Conquered. Put in it's place, and utterly humiliated.

BellaKos

(318 posts)
35. Exactly.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:53 AM
Oct 2012

Romney's attack on PBS reveals layers upon layers about what he and his ilk value. Fortunately for all of mankind, this distortion of values and priorities is now symbolized as the beloved Big Bird that even the lowest of the low-information voter can fully understand.
After all, as Steven Colbert says: it's not about facts; it's about feelings. That's actually more true than people realize. And Romney has served up *feelings* on a silver platter that will nourish the Obama campaign for weeks.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
31. Everyone knows BigBird--he's a gentle friend to children
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:44 PM
Oct 2012
and Inner Children.

Knocking off gentle friends is pretty fucking uncool!

(Welcome to DU, btw. Gooooood post!)

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
47. Big Bird is symbolic of acceptance, education, and all things Democrats love
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 05:23 PM
Oct 2012

When one of his son's started questioning things based on what he was learning from Big Bird I'm sure Sesame Street was banned in the Romney household.

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