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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am starting to reconsider my initial dismay about the debate. This might just turn out to our
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Advantage in a very big way
All the publicity regarding it has created such a stir that the next debate will go against the traditional view, and even more people will watch the second debate
Most people realize that Romney was lying out of both sides of his mouth, and there is no way that will be left standing unanswered
He cannot say all his answers for the last year were misstatements like he did about the 47%
He has dug a large.hole for himself
No matter what he answers now no one really knows what he stands for
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)not that I want to raise expectations, sqwak!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)ananda
(28,866 posts)When Romney went after Lehrer and Big Bird with that gleeful maniacal
psychopathic grin, I knew the rest of the debate didn't really matter...
as long as Obama kept his cool and stayed on message, which he did.
That's why I kept saying that Obama did fine that night!
patrice
(47,992 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)However, I'm in a state where we draw a clear line in the sand and don't have "undecideds." We are as politically polarized as any state can be, honestly.
At least we're one hell of a Dem donor state! Being in our situation does make us more willing than many other states to donate and volunteer for those who have a chance.
Anyway, I digress...Most people who cared enough to watch the debates because they wanted to learn more about Romney, also paid attention to the follow up coverage. They've heard by now he was lying. It won't set well.
BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)phylny
(8,380 posts)President Obama sounded more presidential without a doubt, and more reasoned.
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)I get what he was going for, but he still stumbled over words, gave weak arguments, didn't make the points he DID try to make in a clear way...
I don't think it hurt us all that much... and it WAS a sound strategy, but he certainly didn't make his best effort.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Obama's performance was disappointing, but I think most people realized it wasn't a deal killer.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)The big thing to take away from the debate is that Romney just wrote an unlimited number of ads for Team Obama.
All they have to do is produce vids with the juxtaposition of Romney talking before and during the debates. The number of lies is really quite breathtaking.
This isn't a sporting event. They don't just tally up the score and walk away. The true results of Wednesday's performance are just being tallied up now. By the time the second debate rolls around, this will not be considered such a Romney win because of all the post-debate flack going down.
panzerfaust
(2,818 posts)And, why - oh WHY - did not Obama bring up the 47% when he had a chance in that debate (as he had been mentioning it on his stumping).
Now it is a dead issue.
Dead ever since Rmoney, in a brilliant move, backed away from his previous defense and simply said "I was wrong about that."
Even the most rabid right-wingers with whom I work had been taken aback by the 47% remark: since most everyone has retired - non income-tax paying - parents or grandparents, non income-tax paying disabled relatives, or children (or themselves!) who are non income-tax paying as they are students, or just starting out in very low-paid jobs.
That was Obama's single strongest card. He did not play it. Now it lies shredded on the path of history.
Do not take me wrong, I see neither candidate as standing for progressive values - for, though Obama is to the left of Rmoney, I think it fair to say that in all other western democracies Obama's positions would be in the middle of the conservative side of the political scale.
Certainly, in the UK, he would be comfortable as a Tory.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)that was lying his a$$ off! Obama won, hands down!